next week the first findings of the investigation and making good to investigate the investigators with the new house majority. joining us is democratic congressman of robert garcia a member of the house homeland security and oversight committee back with me. thank you so much for being with us. talk to us about the experience today. what it was that you saw at this jail. yeah. thank you. first, it was hard to see. at the end of the day we were there. we saw the insurrectionists that attacked the capitol and hurt law enforcement officials so to be there was difficult. the worst part is seeing the inmates, the republicans rush to them and talking to them, patting them on the back. interacting with them. they showed no remorse. these are people treating
upon mike pence had the benefit of months of mishandling in both ways, former president trump and president biden. look, these are very different circumstances, and i do not mean to equate the two. the simple fact is he saw a roadmap for how to behave. the way he behaved is you let them comply with everything. most instances of documents getting ending up in the wrong place are inadvertent, and it s not a crime. if their evidence does emerge that it is of course he or anyone around him ought to be and can be prosecuted. we don t see that now. let s move, let s let the search play out and see what happens the next few days. we ll cover the results of the search. let s move on to what i would say is a much bigger issue for the former vice president. the special from the special counsel, jack smith, investigating donald trump. investigating efforts to overturn the election, investigating what happened on january 6th, investigating whether there was a deliberate attempt to disrupt a go
trump? it could be all over the ballpark. one thing that mike pence might say is my constitutional obligation was to be there, to certify the vote. that is all that i was thinking about. but i think the range of productive answers, that the government could get, is much broader. you asked a question earlier and said i understand there is interference with a government proceeding. what about fomenting insurrection, and what about a conspiracy. that would require proo of that donald trump was intending to use violence and working toward that goal on january 6. we don t know what mike pence might say. we don t know what might have been said to mike pence by donald trump to try to lure him into this conspiracy to interfere and whether that at some point crosses the line into this notion that if we have to, i guess if it was a mob case we d say go to the mattresses. here it is engaging the militias. and that is the problem. prosecutors just don t know what
threat to society that anyone who voted for trump is. like the man who put his feet on pelosi s desk, remember that picture on january 6. today he was convicted on multiple charges and he faces a maximum sentence of 20 years in prison. now, mind you, his most serious crime was obstructing an official government proceeding. now, there were hundreds of people who engaged in no acts of violence on january 6 but who were branded domestic terrorists in the media. some lost their jobs and had their lives destroyed. i didn t get to go back to work. i was fired from cook medical. i had been there 13 years and they didn t bother to ask me what my part in that day was. laura: dozens of those arrested were held in solitary confinement for months, in conditions described as inhumane. there are a little more than three dozen at what i call the
considered the threat to society that anyone who voted for trump is like the man who put his feet on pelosi s desk. remember that picture on january six ? well, today, he was convicted on multiple charges and he faces a maximum sentence of 20 years in prison. now, mind you, his most serious crime was obstructing an official government proceeding. now, there were hundreds of people who engaged in no acts of violence on january six . but who were branded domestic terrorists in the media. some of them lost their jobs and generally had their lives destroyed. i didn t even get to go back to work. i was fired from my job at medical and i d been there thirteen years and they didn t even bother to ask me what my part in that day was. dozens of those arrested were held in solitary confinement for months and conditions described as inhumane. they re about a little more than three dozen at what i call