suspect at all. then they read the search warrant affidavit, which detailed the audiotaped conversations between pam phillips and ron young. when you sit in a women s prison for murder, would you sit in a woman s prison for murder? and it s at that point, that we realized something was wrong. that the whole thing was not right. what was it like you for you that she would have been your stepmother, and your friend. a very good friend. that she was implicated? i wanted to throw up. in november of 2007, 11 years after the murder, heather and brian along with gary s youngest daughter elliott, filed a wrongful death civil lawsuit against pam phillips, and ron young. elliott s mother, robin. it was not to recover money? the idea was to serve subpoenas,
was found on his computer. it is not like he had a workshop in his garage and tinkered on the weekends, and he had a slight tremor in his hands. he did not have the ability to do this. not at all. and this defense expert analyzed some trace dna found on the bomb parts. my conclusion is that ron young s markers or not president. it was in his dna? it was not. and it was not pam phillips dna? it was not. that is correct. but there is all the evidence police discovered in his abandon van a month before the murder. maps of tucson, paperwork related to pam and here is divorce, a notepad with names of some of gary s friends and family, and a receipt showing ron spent 18 mysterious days in tucson the summer before the murder under a fake name. what was all that about? he was looking to help them get more child support by investigating the hidden assets of gary triano.
aspen sojourner magazine. she was dabbling in real estate and trying to make starbabies. com a success. to help with the website, she invited gary s daughter, heather triano to come live with her in aspen. it was a company, my father persist for her when they were married. this was great, i thought, this was something my father started. i will come and restarted as it wasn t developed. reporter: during the time heather lived with pam, she took care of her younger siblings. but she never had a discussion with pam about gary s unsolved murder. we didn t talk about it, really. she was basically a member of your family, at least for a while, and clearly felt close to you.
and maybe get the investigation going? it had came to just a slow halt. and it just seemed as if it was as cold as cold could be. so the children got together, and as you said, not for revenue. but to simply get the ball rolling. despite all the evidence investigators had uncovered in ron young s possession. prosecutors in tucson, still didn t feel there was enough to charge either ron young or pam phillips with murder. why do you think prosecutors didn t want to bring a case? i don t know if there was an official reason, or if it was a reluctance on just the sheer size of the case. how big this case was, would it be a career ender case? so. no one ever gave me a solid answer. frustrating? a little bit yes. but the civil suit change things. prosecutors decided, it was time to move. you think the wrongful death suit is sort of what guilted prosecutors into going forward? or it showed them how valid
former wife. and it was because of this insurance policy. reporter: pam phillips, gary s ex was someone that investigators wanted to talk with, especially afterward came from aspen that pam had been connected in some way to a fugitive on the run from fraud charges named ron young. nine days after the murder, investigators got their chance. pam phillips voluntarily came in for questioning. i didn t give pamela out of what i knew. i let her talk and let her give me what she wanted to give me. reporter: detective keith st. john spoke with him three times, twice in person. for the record, tell me your full name. pamela and phillips. he asked him to talk about her relationship with gary, starting with how they met. was he already divorced? no. he was happily married. did she know about those meetings?