continuing to have this fight over that conversation. he s by all accounts of his last day of the justice department that he s going to be gone soon. but, i think what we really get from those eight days is his tensions from the fbi and the justice department and the deputy attorney general who in some way was cracking a bit under pressure. he had seen himself be used by the president and i think a little bit naive to write this memo. to some extent knew why the president fired comey and let himself be used. he saw his reputation really tattered. people were attacking him and he did know what to do. the thing he did was to decide to appoint the special counsel. during that period, you see between the fbi and the justice department and the new political leadership and the career people at the justice department.
guardian had that he was very clear that rosenstein was forced to write the memo. he didn t want to write the memo, but did he it because he was ordered by the president. i mean, all of this does have echos of watergate when, you know, on the saturday night massacre, you know, the people who were doing the investigation realized, wait, they may take all this evidence and they took it with them and they took it out of the offices so it could be preserved. you know, you look at what they ve done and now you hear from mccabe, you ve heard from comey. we ll eventually hear from rosenstein as he leaves the department of justice, and i think you re going to find similar efforts to shut this down. but do you think, then, that this gives some fodder to those who have argued this was all a setup by andy mccabe and james comey to get a special counsel here? mccabe is saying did he this to make sure that an investigation continued. he was the impetus here. well, that s because he thought he s
bureaucracy, you know, once you start an investigation, it s hard to stop it even if individuals leave. and that is the response of a serious investigator but also someone who knows how the fbi bureaucracy works by putting something in motion that would outlast him. as, in fact, it did because did he get fired and the russia investigation continued. he said wanted to put russia case on solid ground in case i was fired. that case could not be closed or vanished in the night. wanted to make sure our case was on solid ground. and noting too of course when scott asked him how long was it after that you decided to start the obstruction, the counterintel investigation, very clear, it was the next day for those exact reasons. it was clear it was his view and the view of many that the president fired comey, to listen to the president, he didn t like how the russia investigation was going. so mccabe obviously had to worry about the future of that investigation. and we know from the exce
he just talked to cbs moments ago. let s listen to what mccabe said. i was speaking to the man who had just run for the presidency and won the election for the presidency. okay. so that that in and of itself perhaps not satisfying for an explanation there. but what i understand he told scott pelly was that he feared after comey was gone that he would be fired in order to, again, stop various investigations into russia. so before he left, in the control room has heard more of this interview and correct me if i m wrong, before he thought he was going to be fired just after comey was, mccabe wanted to make sure that things had begun, things were starting to make sure that an investigation would continue. it makes sense because just in the nature of the
fbi. laura: they had policy differences, clearly, with how the commander in chief was executing his again, article two duties. they didn t like the fact that he d fired comey, didn t like the fact he wanted a closer relationship with russia. all of this calls into question to launch a counter intel investigation? it s ludicrous! the whole thing is completely anti-constitutional and i disagree with you. i think separations of powers is a big deal here and it s another black eye to the fbi, even if the new york times doesn t get it. i want to put something up on the screens for all our viewers across the country and across the globe. this is how cnn today started one of its hours. i think it s jake tapper s power. trump and russia. they have all this hillary targeted by russian hackers, goes all the way up to trump. i can t even read the last one. trump and the firing, the meeting at trump tower, men .