the findings by inspector general horowitz, very clearly delineate that. but there were actions taken by individuals at the fbi to continue a counterintelligence investigation against a sitting president, against his campaign. against his presidency. you know, so these are things that, findings made by inspector general horowitz i would now expect john durham to look at from a criminal standpoint. i m not saying that anyone, i m not making allegations that anyone has should be convicted. these are allegations, everyone is entitled to a presumption of innocence but do i think there is activity detailed in this, that should be investigated and prosecuted? absolutely. tampering with evidence, destruction of evidence. maria: could people go to jail over this? absolutely. what would an aggressive prosecutor do with this if the
and one voice line for just $64.90 per month. call today. comcast business. beyond fast. maria: welcome back. justice department inspector general michael horowitz laying out what he calls significant concerns about the way the fbi conducted investigation into the 2016 election. he said he found no evidence that political bias sparked the probe.
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they would answer no questions. right there you have obstruction of a congressional investigation that, that ought to be held at the highest level. all of those people who blocked us from getting that information, especially if we find out later that the fbi was involved in it. here is what we kind of know right now. we know the spy ring that was created to target carter page, george papdopoulus, trump campaign officials, this big spy ring that was spying on the trump campaign, before the fisa application, it is important to remember that, so this is in august and september and october, they re getting miced up and recording conversations with the trump campaign members, that same spy ring was already operational in spring and early summer of 2016. so, look, i don t know if the fbi was running it. i don t know if some other government agency was running it. i don t know if a foreign government was operating it. hell, for all i know, putin, russia, ukrainians, since that seems to be the
joining me judge michael mukasey, former tone general and judge. honor to be with you. thanks for joining us. pleasure to be with you. conclusions of the i.g. report were certainly debated after it came out because you had the ag, william barr, and john durham, both say that they do not agree. saying that the i.g. report makes it clear the fbi launched intrusive investigation of a presidential campaign on thinnest of suspicions that were insufficient to justify the steps taken. i want to ask you about political bias, where it was in the investigation. was that among the reasons they investigated donald trump? well. let s look, let s look at evidence. it was evidence not discussed in either the i.g. report or his prior report on the various investigations that the fbi did. there was a point where ted cruz withdrew from the campaign, during the primaries, which left donald trump as the only candidate, therefore the presumptive nom knee. that night, he and lisa page