bill mcgurn and kate bachelder odell. kate, why did the immigration bill failed so miserable? it s a good question, paul. there are a lot of authors of the failure, one of them was president trump who did not go out and campaign of the bill to try to get it passed. there are other authors too like the freedom caucus who have moved the goal post on what they are interested in getting in exchange for deal on daca and whose on bill goodlatte bill failed on the floor. but the democrats have been cynical about this discussion as well? paul: they want an issue, they think it will help turn out voters, any chance of anything happening on immigration between now and election for example on family unification of the border in. the republicans have been working on a bill on that it s not clear where trump is on signing it at this point and that s one reason why it s delayed an not come to a vote or
like immigrants either, we re just not as racist. that s not good enough. they need to make a positive case for why we need immigration, for why we need family unification. they need to make a positive case, and all they have is look at this racist guy, that guy is bad. we need more from them as well. i agree. i think we need to be where we are with the legality. we re debating everything that s been going on, and it s very tempting to do such a thing, but we also have 2,000 kids who need to find their parents right now. we have trump issuing this executive order then there s an even more narrow immigration bill in order to combat the flores agreement. it basically said that current cannot be held for more than 20 days. however if you have this family reunification, if you re keeping families together when they re crossing the border legally, that mean you can keeping them for more than 20 days.
rio grande equal voice network. it s very difficult to track them through all those different agencies, ultimately, what really worries us is the idea families being kept together in detention. i.c.e. has a horrible track record for overseeing children. laura: okay, again, the hhs, refugee resettlement, that handles the children. family unification and detention center, that is a different deal. but look, when you listen to the activists and the politicians today after the president signed his executive order, they revealed themselves. their goal is simple. they want to show the american people that borders themselves are fundamentally unjust. they are a violation of human rights, free movement, free people. for years, they ve advocated for restrictive court rulings that tied the government hands and limit our ability to control our own people, control our own immigration, who comes and who goes in a serious way.
here is the spokesman of the rio grande equal voice network. it s very difficult to track them through all those different agencies, ultimately, what really worries as is the idea families being kept together in detention. i.c.e. is a horrible track record for overseeing children. laura: okay, again, the hhs, refugee resettlement, that handles the children. family unification and detention center, that is a different deal. but look, when you listen to the activists and the politicians today after the president to sign his executive order, they reveal themselves. their goal is simple. they want to show the american people that borders themselves are fundamentally unjust. they are a violation of human rights, free movement, free people. for years, they ve advocated for restrictive card rulings that tied the government hands and limit our ability to control our own people, control our own immigration, who comes in who
to remain together as they waited adjudication of the cases. he s asking the defense department to work with homeland security to house the families. we are going to see how that executive order, of course, is greeted by the courts. we are going to have a lot of happy people. laura: well, happy? not quite. the left has already moved onto the next mantra: we shouldn t be detaining anyone. i give him zero credit, and now, i m just concerned that we will move to end to indefinite detention of families at our border. and we will not solve this. this order means that families will be incarcerated together, mean that children will be incarcerated with her parents. if you think about the people being deported, these are people that have made the most desperate journey of their lives through some of the most dangerous conditions of the world. laura: again, they were for family unification yesterday.