here is the spokesman of the rio grande equal voice network. >> it's very difficult to track them through all those different agencies, ultimately, what really worries as is the idea families being kept together in detention. i.c.e. is a horrible track record for overseeing children. >> laura: okay, again, the hhs, refugee resettlement, that handles the children. family unification and detention center, that is a different deal. but look, when you listen to the activists and the politicians today after the president to sign his executive order, they reveal themselves. their goal is simple. they want to show the american people that borders themselves are fundamentally unjust. they are a violation of human rights, free movement, free people. for years, they've advocated for restrictive card rulings that tied the government hands and limit our ability to control our own people, control our own immigration, who comes in who