finish off. estimates nicolle, in the last block we talk about jesse james. he didn t have any interest in being a strong fbi or justice department. just imagine john diller as your next president, john gotti. they would do the same thing. i think that i say that in a way sort of a bit for a will have, but i mean it in a serious way. charlie does this thing, and he s one of the good buys. guys. he says the rep part is no longer the party of law and order. it one was, used to be the party of low deficits, muscular foreign policies abroad.
supporting support for ukraine. the other people is the way the window has sort of shifted. i think we laugh at it one day, but the platform of the desantis candidacy, which i know is ill-fated, but it s also to dismantle the phish. they re not just for approving brutal attacks, the candidates on the republican signed want to dismantle the federal agency charged with dealing with drug cartels, with preventing terrorism, that s their stated position, not hidden. nicolle, i say with some degree of this would sound
thread, and i wonder what you feel as this legal process commences in a very real way. you know, i watched the day you had the judge on, nicolle. i believe, like everyone, i have enormous regard for him as a legal scholar, and for your guest today. these are all questions that are a matter of constitutional we re all any same boat here, but i did hear my friend, charles sikes, i believe on that day raise some of the questions i have about this, about whether this is really a thing. on some level, i understand there s a process that could play out by which this would the way the judge lays out, and there s not i see a problem that i did hear charlie say that as a political matter, as ha matter of reality, that the
people will sea, great, because that s what it s about, the able to check and make it right. everyone noises it s wrong. it s just no way, anyway, whatever you can do, fran says, it would be a great thing. it s so important for the country. i very much appreciate it. so the other individuals are brad raffensperger and fran companies watson, who have been called on monday. i think it s really important, nicolle. mark meadows, to date, he s been successfully on the slalom run, but now, should he lose this hearing and be back in the jaws of the fulton county
is not shocking that his character and his conduct would lead to this moment. it wouldn t have been possible in the republican party had not gone along with all of this. you had a lot of coward this is not just an msnbc or bulwark thing. this is a republican thing. a lot of the magical thinking was, well, surely we don t have anything to do about it. there s no way he will bea perp walk, and then be a candidate. that was the premise. he thought the criminal justice would take care of him, but this is how shocking it is, nicolle. this was also the premise behind