circus john heilemann is back. john heilemann, i want to start with you. there was a time when, it was so apart, oh, nobody would trust the process, and here we are i guess it s not morning anymore that s the kind of week i ve had the day after the fourth criminal indictment of donald trump. yeah, look, nicolle, the unusual has become the usual. at the un-indictable have become indicted. perhaps the unconvictable will become convicted. i think the arguments that people put forward, they re very similar sets of arguments of why you can t indict sitting president, this notion of injecting politics in some way into the legal process.
james was ahn actual hardened criminal who killed people without any apparent fee of being grabbed, being convicted and put behind bars. we know that s trump s greatest fear. he is just improvising, nicolle, doing what he does, bluster, bragadoccio, and run fast in a direction and hope everybody else gets too tired to chase you, or confuse them, or they ll back down. somehow your relentlessness and shamelessness will win the day. for donald trump, he s had a pretty good record. playing that strategy has served him will. he s gotten away with everything