the people who were most likely to physically confront fascists were generally trade unionists and left wing groups. yeah, but you were very happy to yell the n word into people s faces. absolutely, absolutely. the n word, the p word, the w word, all kinds of words. and we need briefly to talk about welling, cos it s sort of a watershed moment in your life. it was a meeting of anti fascist activists, campaigners. anti racists. ..anti racists. the general good and great of the community. yeah, and it s local to your home in south east london. yeah. you pitch up with scores of thugs. yeah. i mean, you were a thug. scores of thugs, they march in, they see elderly ladies, they see pregnant women, they see men, and they just attack. yes. and you were part of it. i was part of that. and you, presumably, attacked people. yes.
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is nbc s ruhit kutru who s outside of the mandela home in south africa. what can you tell us is going on outside? reporter: well, al, there is an incredible crowd here. a gathering of perhaps a hundred people of all ages of black and white. a true representation of south africa. one interesting observation is perhaps how young this crowd is. i would estimate two-thirds of people who are less than 25 years old. people who have no memory of the darkest days of apartheid. but such is mandela s legacy that he means exactly the same thing to the young teenagers who are gathering here with flames singing songs from the history
is a celebration, it s not a sad time. and if there s anybody that can go home with a victory, it s nelson mandela. he was able to lead his people to triumph and hate. forgiveness in place of vengeance. and south africa is a democratic free market economy right now that s still struggling, but there s a spirit about that place that always gets you going. it s not just mandela. it s the people. and as much as he was the leader of that non-violent movement, he was also a product of strong, loving, caring people that wanted to live together as brothers rather than perish together as