complicated and why fani s prosecution will almost certainly happen after the election. just to be clear on what i think mark meadows real goal is here. he knows he s likely to lose, but what he s angling for is this jury pool. if the case actually is moved to federal court, the jury pool is much wider. it contains more white people, and more people who live in the suburbs. which i think meadows and some of his codefendants view as a friendlier jury than if it s tried in fulton county. the other big difference is if he s successful in the motion, which again, i don t think he will be, but if he wins, this trial isn t going to be on tv. federal criminal trials aren t televised. if the case goes to trial in fulton county, it s on tv every day. it s on tv. and if it s on tv, i think it s good for the country because it will be like a mini version of what will happen with donald trump. we can see the evidence and people who may be skeptical will
defense counsel. and she was right. you know, she called his bluff at every turn, and the prosecutors called the defense counsel s bluff at every turn. my favorite moment was when john lauro was insisting he hasn t done anything to prepare the case. he hasn t had time, he hasn t looked at the documents, and the prosecutor stood up and said actually, he gave an interview to the media where he said he has read mike pence s book not once but twice and is already preparing. cross-examination, so it sounds like the defense preparation is well under way. it sounds like he s got more rudys. renato, let s talk about the calendar. i want to put it up so you can kind of visualize in your mind what this looks like. in january, january 15th, the e. jean carroll civil defamation case. then at the end of january, you have the federal class action suit. but sandwiches in between there is the iowa caucuses. then you have february, where he gets time off being in court.
the information has been out for two years. and she goes on to say, the defense has not identified any case in the district where the defendant was given two years in which there were no codefendants and no ongoing pandemic. you re in the court, glenn, what was the defense s response to that? she actually called them out and said the numbers tat you gave, for example, trial took 29.4 months, she said first of all, that was from the time of indictment until the time of sentencing. these are pandemic era cases, when everything was backed up. and she said, your arguments are, quote, misleading. i m sure, you know, people would agree with me that when a judge tells you that you have put something in a legal filing that is, quote, misleading, it s kind of like a dagger to the heart. we don t take it kindly. but that s what she told the
conduct that the defendant says was part of their federal job responsibilities, then the case can be moved to federal court, and you remember, donald trump tried the same move. he wanted to get the prosecution by the manhattan district attorney moved to federal court. and the federal judge in new york denied that motion, telling trump paying hush money to porn stars wasn t part of trump s official responsibilities as president. and i think that when the federal judge in atlanta looks at what mark meadows actually did, he ll come to the same conclusion. mark meadows tried to get the justice department to sue six states to get their votes overturned, even when doj officials were telling him there was no fraud. mark meadows sent those youtube videos and text messages that promoted the big lie. one of the really dumb things he was pushing was that there was this group in atlanta, in italy,
case afterward. i will just say, joy, you are right to describe this as a mess. and it s a mess that donald trump created. i think judge chutkan made that clear. and ultimately, she said he s going to be treated like anybody else in this situation. he s not the only person charged in multiple districts. people like r. kelly have been charged in multiple districts, and ultimately, he went to trial and stood trial in multiple districts. that s the reality of the situation donald trump finds himself in. and by the way, to glenn s point earlier, his lawyers aren t helping him. because they keep going on tv and saying stupid stuff. here s elena hoba on fox. if it was a normal person, i could understand the concern. president trump is not your average person. he s incredibly intelligent and he knows the ropes. he also knows the facts because he lived them. these are not complicated facts. look at fani, it was a phone