more closely as i was speaking live with chris. and i saw the outline of an individual's body. and i thought to myself, that is a human being. they have set themselves on fire, and his hands were raised in the air as he was standing there, arms wide open. and he burned for two minutes. it seemed like a lifetime. but it was two to three minutes. and then collapsing to the ground as security personnel, members of the fdny, members of nypd showed up and were able to put out that fire. and i gotta say, joy, what i saw with my own eyes and what his body had gone through at that moment is unexplainable. and his body then shook. and emts showed up. they put him on a stretcher, and they carried him out. when he lit himself on fire, joy, i was told by another