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Transcripts for CNN The Lead With Jake Tapper 20240604 20:07:00

social post by trump stop. he did make those comments in ireland. they were not really raised as an issue in this trial. you know, the reason why the judge wanted him to, stop he wants to protect the jury, and he wanted to protect the integrity of the trial so they wouldn t end up with a mistrial. you, know that s where we saw the judge even telling the jury today, you can speak to anyone you want about this, you can identify yourself, he, said i would advise you not to. he said, if you do decide to talk with someone, don t reveal the names of the other jurors because he wants to protect them. i mean, he said, i would advise you not to speak now and not for a very long time. , so it s something that he s concerned about, given the, you, know the issues even in this case. the case here is about e. jean carroll making this allegation, trump is making those statements. eugene carroll receiving numerous negative tweets, emails, said she was sleeping with a gun in her bed because she was so

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Transcripts for CNN The Lead With Jake Tapper 20240604 20:03:00

her story that she says trump raped her and in the department store in the mid 1990s. they also found that trump defamed her when he made these statements on october 12th, saying that he did not know who carroll was, he said her story was a hoax, and that she was not his type. over this, you know, there were seven days of testimony, the jury heard from 11 witnesses that prompted did see the video deposition of him. that s something carroll s team had argued would cut against him. it seemed to the jury did agree with that. they also awarded carroll $5 million in damages. now, as this verdict was read just after 3 pm eastern time today, as read by the judges, carroll was sitting there, in between two of her attorneys. holding the hands of one of her attorneys, and when the question came of, you know, did they prove that e. jean carroll proved that trump had sexually abused her, the answer was yes, you could see that she looked relieved. she was leaning forward at

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Transcripts for CNN The Lead With Jake Tapper 20240604 20:37:00

to hear donald trump use that kind of language in the oval office at the time. even though he had this history of making prude statements, just given the fact that this is a live allegation and you sort of knew at the time, this could lead to legal peril. so, when he said it, as a reporter, your spidey sense sort of jumps up, pops out, and that s the reaction i had at the time. like, oh my god, i can t believe he just said that and this could spell real trouble for him. i remember rushing to meet the deadline to run the story and e. jean carroll was on jeanne and cnn soon afterwards to respond, and now here we are. and then obviously he subsequently repeated it as well. i mean, it wasn t just something he said is president where you could, i guess, technically argue perhaps it was protected speech because of his special role as president of the united states. then after his presidency, he went on and repeated it again. it is remarkable somebody with so many accusers is so free

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Transcripts for CNN The Lead With Jake Tapper 20240604 20:02:00

case in new york city, just last month the former president pleaded not guilty to 34 felony charges related to hush money payments to adult film star and director, stormy daniels. not to mention, investigations by the justice department into january 6th and to those classified documents at mar-a-lago. not to mention the investigation where prosecutors in fulton county georgia are looking into his attempt to flip georgia, perhaps legally in the 2020 election. let s go back to the first, particles get to cnn s outside the courthouse in new york. kara, this was pretty quick, and it was also, i think it was more money than she was originally asking for? yeah, jake, i mean, this verdict was returned just over two and a half hours of deliberations. that seemed extremely quick for the jury that had a number of questions they had to answer. the jury here found that trump was liable for sexually abusing e. jean carroll. that s all related to, you know,

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Transcripts for CNN The Lead With Jake Tapper 20240604 20:18:00

that was a disastrous answer for donald. trump really, on two levels. first of all, as you say, when you say that it s fortunate that stars can do this, later was, asked you consider yourself a star? he said, yes. that really goes to the heart of e. jean carroll s allegation. second, but when trump said, well, it s true, that was his answer. that is not the point here. the point is, does donald trump believe that that s the way of the world? and he clearly does believe that s the way of the world, he said at the deposition and hence the argument is, that s how he operates and carroll s lawyers effectively argued to the jury. that s what he did to e. jean carroll. the answer, there i think it did a lot of damage to donald trump and was a contributing factor to today s verdict. so, donald trump ordered this court to pay $5 million to e. jean carroll, 3 million for defamation, 2 million for sexual abuse. i assume you think he will appeal this verdict. wouldn t appeal have a chance

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