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Transcripts for CNN The Lead With Jake Tapper 20240604 21:20:00

number two, i think a lot of republicans will rationalize this by saying, well, it happened in new york and you can find a jury in new york and find donald trump guilty of anything. and number three, a lot of republicans will say we re taking sexual accusations seriously from the mid- 90s, that s what you re going to hear out of the people that support him. i think this gettings thrown in the back with the bragg indictment, whatever happens in georgia, january 6th, by the time we start voting, that bag is going to feel pretty heavy to a lot of republicans. obviously, as both alyssa and scott alluded to, e. jean carroll was hardly the first woman to accuse donald trump of sexually assaulting her. we know of 12 other women who accused him of sexual assharasst or sexual assault or sexual misconduct. we heard from one of them earlier in the hour, who testified in the e. jean carroll

Transcripts for CNN The Lead With Jake Tapper 20240604 20:25:00

news. a new york jury this afternoon finding donald trump, the republican presidential front runner liable for sexual abuse and for defamation. the jury ordering donald trump to pay nearly $5 million to writer e. jean carroll, accuses him of raping her in a department store in the mid 90s. this decision coming after a different legal consequence for donald trump, he was indicted by the manhattan grand jury on 34 criminal counts of falsifying business records and march related to the hush money payment paid to stormy daniels. laura coats is with me, along with cnn political commentator, obviously the political implications of this, be on the legal ones, they re quite consequential. donald trump is, by far, in every poll, the front runner for the republican presidential nomination. and he is now found liable for

Transcripts for CNN The Lead With Jake Tapper 20240604 20:48:00

to writer e. jean carroll. let s bring back cnn s chief legal analyst, laura coates. a lot was said there by mr. tacopina and he expressed, he agreed that it was a fast jury verdict. he was surprised, it seemed, that it was that fast. he definitely indicated that there is going to be an appeal. among the various grounds, well, let s just do them one y one because they re really interested in hearing your insight, laura. first of all, he said, donald trump can get a fair trial in new york city because of the jury pool. new york city is where this incident allegedly happened in bergdorf goodman s. it s that grounds for a scuffle appeal to say, look, new york, you know, manhattan specifically voted, i don t even know what it was, but let s say more than 90% of the vote, people in that burrow voted against donald trump in the last elections, he can t have a fair trial. is that reasonable? no.

Transcripts for CNN The Lead With Jake Tapper 20240604 20:10:00

should look at this pattern. the judge that the jury could consider that when they were evaluating whether trump assaulted carroll. they could consider this, they found they believe those women by preponderance of evidence, the judge said was just over 50%. they could consider. if they don t believe these women, they didn t have to consider. but it is something that they were allowed to use in this case. it could be a possible point of appeal for trump s team. all right, thank you so, much appreciated. let s bring in cnn chief legal analyst, lauren. and senior legal analyst, elie honig. laura, former president trump chose not to testify in this case. as kara scannell noted, one of the things he had said about e. jean carroll, and obviously this is offensive for anybody knows that sexual assault and rape is not about attraction, it s about power, bullying, and abuse. he said, she s not my type. how impactful do you think it was in the video recording deposition that was shown to the j

Transcripts for CNN The Lead With Jake Tapper 20240604 20:50:00

that he will not have a fair jury pool in new york. but that is really a far cry from what is required to prove on appeal. he also brought up the idea that the access hollywood tape should not have been admitted. again, i m no legal expert. it certainly is defamatory. it certainly suggests that donald trump thinks that he can get away with the kind of behavior e. jean carroll accused him of doing. does he have a point that that tape should not have been admitted? my understanding, and tell me if i m wrong, was that the way he brought it in was he was talking to a woman who also alleges that donald trump and sexually assaulted her in a similar way, and she mentioned the access hollywood tape, and thus, provided an entrée for him to introduce it as evidence. the way you bring is in is hearsay. it s an out of court statement made to prove is true in the

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