must double check it. gun, that means open up the gun. look at the cylinder, chamber, the barrel. barr make sure that therele is ani inert dummy round and notne a live round in it. roun and the trainind.g tells. ba how to distinguish it. baldwin didn t do any o df those things. failure to do it could constitute gross recklessness,hs which is involuntary manslaughter is other. s the problem is he was the on set location producer that carries t with it an additional duty of pr care to protect the crewot t and the prosecution is prepared to put witnesses on the stand. stand that this wasyhe an out of control, sloppy, reckless setse in which there wo were misfires of weapons, shoople were having fun and games, shooting at beer cans during breaks? if it can be shown thatwn tha baldwin knew or should havewin known that that was going on , to live rounds are never supposed to be anywhere near a set that could also constitute grossnd
sets. he s worked with professional armorers. in this 2020 interview, he described exactly what the procedure looks like when you re working with a real armorer, and he knows that s not what was happening. there was no one checking to make sure that there wasn t live ammo on the set. mm-hmm. that gateway point is like people aren t supposed to bring guns on airplanes. then how come the tsa catches 3,000 of them every year? because they re the final safety point to make sure that nothing happens. the armorer is that final safety point to make sure live ammo doesn t get in the gun. so this is a live round. it has a primer on the back that is undimpled, and it has an intact case, and the bullet, the part that comes out of it, this is not a bullet, this is a cartridge, this is a bullet. it s the projectile that comes out. this is exactly the projectile that injured the director. so how do you know that this isn t blank or dummy? a dummy round has a dimple on the back of the primer.
a dummy round has holes drilled into it. you can see that. and a dummy round can you hear that? yeah. hear that? yeah, i do. okay, so the dummy round has bbs in it too. it s called a rattle check. so they rattle check every round. the provider of the ammo says he checked every round. i don t believe that because he was sending mixed boxes that contained both live ammo and dummy rounds. but it doesn t matter. mistakes can happen. people can bring live ammo on the set. it s new mexico. half the people are carrying guns anyway. the issue isn t how live ammo got on the set. it s in the world. it can e prm year to date a set. but that is irrelevant if you rattle check and visually inspect each round you put in the gun or if you inspect to make sure the gun is, in fact, upholded. yeah. that s why it s so essential
charged. they should think they can prove the case beyond a reasonable doubt, and i don t think there s beyond a reasonable doubt evidence here. there is possibly charges against the other people, the first assistant director, the armorers, and to give precedent. decades ago, brandon lee, the son of bruce lee was killed in a very similar accident, and the conclusion by law enforcement was that this was not any one person s negligence. a bunch of really bad decisions led to a projectile being stuck in a gun with what was supposed to be a dummy round. i think if that s any precedent, they may conclude there was a bunch of acts of negligence and no one person was criminally responsible, and yet i still think someone s getting charged today. what i don t understand is just with basic gun safety, but also on the set of a movie there are procedures that you go through to prepare the gun, hand it over, communicate that it s, you know, ready to use, and then
have been civil or criminal. it is a criminal case so we have no answer as to the number one key question, how did those live cartridges get on the set? there are no answers to that. we should hear more soon because they have to hold it for court for trial there is enough evidence for alec baldwin and miss gutierrez to continue on to a criminal trial. i want to come back to chloe. on that point let me stay with you, elie, let s listen to the district attorney again making that case she has looked at this and says from the top of this production all the way down, the people who should have been doing the safety checks including alec baldwin she says and the armorer weren t up to the job. listen. there was such a lack of safety and safety standards on that set. that there were live rounds on set. they were mixed in with regular dummy round, nobody was checking those or at least they weren t checking them consistently. as you listen to that and