explosive claim from the attorneys representing hannah gutierrez-reed, who suggests the live bullet was planted with dummy and blank rounds that resulted in the death of the cinematographer. are you suggesting this is a case of sabotage? the answer is unequivocally yes. reporter: she did check the gun for ammo but she could not easily tell the difference between blanks and real bullets in the chamber. dummy round looks very, very similar to a live regular round it. ooh is got a projectile tip and a primer. reporter: on the set the gun sat unattended on the cart for 2 1/2 hours. she tried do her best. there were supposed to be other
we know a lot more about the sequence of events. we still don t know the answer to that question which is how did a live ballistic round find its way on to a movie set. we do know that that should never happen. and what appears to be evident here is there was a terrible chain of custody on the set. and what you have to do is make sure that all of the weapons on the set and all of the ammunition on a set are accounted for, and so you have a stringent chain of custody to keep this kind of thing from happening. and we know from the sheriff s press conference and the affidavits that have been submitted that they found live ballistic rounds intermingled with dummy rounds, which is a recipe for disaster gosh gunshot. gosh the dummy round is supposed to look like live ammunition. that s what makes this so dangerous. we go back to whose role t typically a set we re learning new terminology as it applies to titles and roles,
so in my experience, it not very common onset to have dummy rounds that have a hole but what they can do is drill a hole right through the side of it and lets people know that it s a dummy round. so that would be duressed into the cylinder of the revolver. jeffrey, i have to go. what happens next? there will be three investigations. you have osha looking to see if safety regulations were followed. you have the criminal investigation and presumably, if the family decides to do so, there will be a civil investigation. all of those work on parallel tracks. you guys have been great. jeffrey, we ll have you back and continue to talk about it. dutch, you as well. appreciate you guys joining us. let s hope this never happens again and they put more safety precautions in place. listen, there were a lot. it looks like they just weren t followed here. thank you so much. so i have something really important to tell you about. okay? you want to mark your calendars
between a studio safety blank and dummy round, show us what you got. a studio safety blank might look like this and you can see this crimped end on the end of it and it looks almost like the end of a hot dog where it s pinched off or a sausage. that s an unfired blank safety blank round and i m going to show you next a fired safety blank round. you can see that it s open. it been punched open and it s very obvious and it s about half of the weight because there is no powder. then i ll show you what a dummy round looks like. this is the hollywood magic, it looks like a real bullet. it has the lead in front and brass casing but there is no gun powder in it and no primer. to add to the safety, we also add a little bb inside. you ll never see it on camera but any crew member can put it to their oear and i ll put it t my microphone and hear the rattle. we can pick it up and rattle it. i read in a report the a.d.
about the legal angle. between a studio safety blank and dummy round, show us what you got. a studio safety blank might look like this and you can see this crimped end on the end of it and it looks almost like the end of a hot dog where it s pinched off or a sausage. that s an unfired blank safety blank round and i m going to show you next a fired safety blank round. you can see that it s open. it been punched open and it s very obvious and it s about half of the weight because there is no powder. then i ll show you what a dummy round looks like. this is the hollywood magic, it looks like a real bullet. it has the lead in front and brass casing but there is no gun powder in it and no primer. to add to the safety, we also add a little bb inside. you ll never see it on camera but any crew member can put it to their ear and i ll put it to my microphone and hear the rattle. we can pick it up and rattle it. i read in a report the a.d. noticed the rounds that had holes in them.