minister saying these convoys of western arms that are coming into ukraine were legitimate targets, what he didn t say is whether they were legitimate targets in ukraine or outside. the point was, he was trying to threaten, suggest that it might do and therefore escalate the threat against nato. as we have seen through this conflict, the russians warning about nuclear use, chemicalweapons, biological, this is the latest stage of that. let s hear now from the president of poland andray duda whose country is front and centre of the ukrainian refugee crisis with more than a million and a half people having crossed the borders since the start of the russian invasion. there s also the potential threat of russia using chemical weapons in ukraine and we ve already seen russian missile strikes on ukrainian targets just a few miles from the polish border. my colleague sophie raworth has been talking to president duda, and she began by asking him if he was concerned about the potential u
washington. some of the decisions made earlier this week in brussels. later the president will sit for bilateral talks with president duda before he finishes out day with what the white house is calling a significant speech. his opportunity to set out his view of what s happening here. you can expect him to use the frame of autocracy versus democracy, what he s been using to describe his foreign policy for months, even before he became president, and you can expect him to reiterate it today before he heads back to washington later this evening. thanks very much. last hour i spoke with a member of the ukrainian parliament, who has been calling for more forceful military response from the west. asked her if she had heard anything that the west is listening. her response.
you had ambassador smith on this morning answering for it. i m actually glad he called out putin. the white house had to take it back, it makes the president look like he s out of touch and and not under control, and that s bad. john: former national security council employee? he also told american troops the day before that they were going to be sent to ukraine and a few hours later told president duda that the u.s. would accept an additional 100,000 ukrainian refugees, to me, those were bigger problems. john: also said he would respond to a chemical weapons attack in kind. no. thank you, panel. [laughter] we will see you again next sunday. up next, a final word on the week ahead and how you can help the people of ukraine. [winter wind noises] you wanna go out, walter? let s go. yeah! mush, walter! pace yourself.
specific ways u.s. military aid can be of use, the ways u.s. intelligence can be of use so this is a critical meeting. at the same time today we ll also hear from the president after he has a chance to meet with president duda of poland. that also a key alliance. now on some issues on the global stage, president duda and president biden don t always see eye to eye on the issue of ukraine. they have forged a good partnership and today from official kinds of interactions to the very personal firsthand experiences with the president getting to meet people who have fled their homes because they have been in the line of fire from russia s unprovoked war on ukraine, he ll get to see and experience that by talking to refugees, hearing their personal stories, meeting aid workers as well, some of the people who have rushed to try to provide the kind of immediate help that refugees need, from food to shelter to medical care he ll
for leaders to connect and to make decisions that can be very persuasive and influential on the events themselves. ali? kelly, stay with me. we re watching live pictures right now from the presidential palace in warsaw. it s right next door to where we are. president biden is in conversation with the president of poland and kelly, a point you made earlier which is interesting because president biden said we re doing this for our freedom and for yours and he made a commitment that article 5, the mutual defense treat ney nato is sacred, but politically, it s a very warm meeting, but politically biden and duda are not in the same place and in fact, there have been lots of reasons for these two countries to disagree over the last few years because of the political direction in which poland is going and that s been put aside against the expansion of soviet