for leaders to connect and to make decisions that can be very persuasive and influential on the events themselves. ali? kelly, stay with me. we re watching live pictures right now from the presidential palace in warsaw. it s right next door to where we are. president biden is in conversation with the president of poland and kelly, a point you made earlier which is interesting because president biden said we re doing this for our freedom and for yours and he made a commitment that article 5, the mutual defense treat ney nato is sacred, but politically, it s a very warm meeting, but politically biden and duda are not in the same place and in fact, there have been lots of reasons for these two countries to disagree over the last few years because of the political direction in which poland is going and that s been put aside against the expansion of soviet