load it once again and because it s in d.c. it will be in d.c. d.c. has very settled case law on things that otherwise might matter here, like attorney-client privilege with respect to the president, executive privilege with the president. then there s nixon v united states and other evidence that will come in. the constitutional questions that would hang this up are note going to be real issues in this trial. on top of that, there s no classified documents, you don t have to go through the classified experience and top secret act. all stay with us. wolf? erin, i want to go straight to our justice correspondent evan perez who has been covering this for us from the very beginning. evan, trump is charged with the four new felony counts. these are very, very serious charges potentially carrying long prison terms even. what happens next will the former president actually be
six. the sixth being a campaign or a political consultant who was instrumental political consultant. there are a few people who that could possibly be but we re not going to make assumptions here until we know for sure. we do know who all the others are. yeah. interesting, ty, you say they could have already pled and we just don t know. we don t know the status of any of those. i do wonder, ty, your view on the timing here. we were having a robust conversation about whether the american people deserve a verdict in this case from a jury of their own peers ahead of an election given that this alleges that a former president tried to, you know, basically stage a coup and it lays it all out. do you think that there s any chance that this happens, that there is a verdict in the case before the actual election in 2024? i think there s an outside chance. i do think this raises some
out, these really have turned into one, the legal and the political. they believe part of this is fighting this in the court of public opinion and really holding onto the fact they want to continue this narrative that this is election interference bipartisan joe biden, this is all politically motivated and i will say i have noticed in calls with advisers and allies to the former president that they do seem more confident in this approach in the last week having actually seen new poll numbers that show him leading by such a large margin. they do feel confident that they can try and paint this as election interference. now obviously it s not a legal strategy we re talking here in the court of public opinion. the other thing i want to mention is that they are watching how the coverage is all unfolding right now. we know that several of trump s lawyers have been across different networks. the surrogates have been out there. they have been prepping house members, senators on what exactly to
conversations with the doj about a potential zoom showing, but as we know about the former president, he likes to create a media narrative and he likes to create a spectacle. if it is a zoom showing, he does not get the cameras on him, his travel. he does not get to use it later in another video for his campaign, which is something we have seen him do with both of the previous indictments. they brought a videographer to new york with him and cut campaign ads with that footage. it is unlikely they will do a zoom but i have been told by my advisers that has not been completely ruled out. i want to go to fred upton from michigan. he voted to impeach trump in his role in the attack on the capitol. i appreciate your time. not only did you cast that important vote but your state, michigan, is very prominently featured in this indictment. let me just start with this moment for you because you were there on the capitol on january 6th. you were one of only ten
expletive being beamed down from the mothership. right. so let s just back up and talk about what you have to establish as a prosecutor. you have to establish some level of corrupt action or intent on the part of the defendant. now a number of people, the louder the chorus is and the bigger the chorus is, you really need to get inside the defendant s head as to what he was thinking. i think the far more compelling same is when we talked about the last network which is the president ultimately threw his hands up on page 30 and saying, you know, i guess this is the next guy s problem, acknowledging that he lost the election. but again the jason miller statement with every other one, just the volume of them helps prosecutors prove the case but none of them and, scott, to this point we counted 37 times knowing or knowingly are used. that s what s in painstaking detail. not just showing every lie but