Charging him in connecith his efforts to overturn the 2020 electi. Include the conspiracy to defraud the United States, conspiracy to obstruct an official proceeding, obstruction of and attempt to obstruct an official proceeding and conspiracy against rights. Moments ago the special counsel, jack smith, spoke more about the indictment and the charges trump now faces. The attack on our nations capitol on january 6th, 2021, was an unprecedented assault on the seat of american democracy. Its described in the indictment, it was fueled by lies, lies by the defendant targeted at obstructing a Bedrock Function of the u. S. Government, the nations process of collecting, counting and certifying the results of the president ial election. The indictment went on to say that trump had six coconspirators, wolf, but of course it did not name them. This is truly, truly a remarkable moment in american history. The former president of the United States, who is now the current frontrunner for the republi
i mean, mike pence gave a statement tonight, very strong statements. as this has progressed his statements have gotten stronger and stronger and stronger against the former president of the united states, but there s a quote in here that was kind of shocking to me from the former president. there is this now infamous meeting in the oval office on the evening of january 3rd, and the lawyers are gathering and the president is gathering and there was an offer from the assistant attorney general for the office of the legal counsel to explain to everybody why the justice department shouldn t let the vice president do what the president wanted him to do. and you know what trump s response was at that point? it was no one here should be talking to the vice president. i m talking to the vice president and that ended the
so you would have that in court, one running against the other taking the stand. by the time this goes to trial i suspect mike pence won t be in the race anymore but but you don t know, donald trump could be the de facto nominee of the party when this goes to trial but maybe not nominated yet at the convention. just to me, the idea that you d have one of your closest advisers, jason miller possibly in the middle of this trial, he s one of the president s top spokesmen former president s top spokesmen. your former vice president, possibly probably testifying against you in open court, what an absolute spectacle. it underscores to me what i said earlier. most republicans are going to view this as a political document until donald trump gets his day in court and i just don t see how you can have an election with donald trump in the middle of it without this having been adjudicated for the american people to see it. i guess the question is it s a political document until he get
him, briefed him, this is a national security adviser, she said that he did this many timings. in fact, she described the way mike pence took notes. it was interesting. black sharpie preferred by the former president, too, and an index card, and that he did it many times. so it does seem to scott s point that some of those notes may be very important in this indictment. absolutely. it goes to his credibility as a witness. he has high credibility. he s said the same things over time as consistently. his book is his own dooirmt of the president. in his book he lays out a lot of the same charges. and it s just remarkable. the fact that he seems to be somebody that would be a solid witness, let s put it that way. a star witness. can i ask the question? how likely reading this document do you find when this goes to trial that the former vice president will take the stand against his old president? yes. you think they would put him on? 100%. first of all, he s the victim
president biden. how much does this case impact, do you believe, the 2024 races? well, i think that in the short term we ve seen the effect of these indictments that people thought these would be bricks on donald trump s load but they turn out not to be kryptonite but battery packs. . he he s more formidable. it becomes more effective in a general election. i want to say, you asked george what his strategy his legal strategy will be. i think his legal strategy and political strategy are very much intertwined. what he s going to try to do in the courtroom is delay the trials as long as he can and hope he can push them after the election and hope he can win the election and obviate these cases in which case the election would become the trial and the trial