[gavel] good afternoon and welcome to the july 28 meeting of the San Francisco Ethics Commission. I will take attendance. Chairperson mr. Hur has been excused for personal reasons and calling the other commissioners. Renne. Here. Commissioner andrews. Here. Commissioner keane. Here. Before taking Public Comment on item number 2 i just want to call everybodys attention to the fact that the regular meeting for august has been canceled, and there will be a special meeting on august 18 at 10 00 a. M. In room four one six to consider the report of the civil grand jury and the commissions response thereto. At this time i will take Public Comment on matters of not appearing on the agenda that are within the jurisdiction of the Ethics Commission. Members of the Ethics Commission. Ray hart director of San Francisco open open government. In 1964 and here in San Francisco Barry Goldwater accepted the nomination for president and his brief acceptance speech included items that were boiled down to
I take it to regard to any things done in violation of any rules or regulation by these individuals who were named in the report that at some point mr. Ram would have been informed of that if the supervisor knew of it and that he would have taken some disciplinary steps . He would have informed if they felt the department wasnt in compliance or the planners werent responding in a timely fashion and to my understanding there was no knowledge of that of the supervisor at that time so in other words we felt they responded in a timely fashion and responding mr. Ringel of all of the emails in possession of the Planning Department. You said you agreed with the report of our staff and in relation to the chronology and how this happened. Is that correct . Thats correct. In the report it does mention a number of times the gentleman asked for various records he was entitled to under the sunshine ordinance act and under the open records act, and was not given them and was given them later than th
You are stating to us that the Planning Department violated those sections referenced in the report of our staff . We did not provide some of those materials in a timely fashion, yes. Which was a violation of the rules as reflected in the materials that are put forth in the report of our staff . Youve already said you agree with it . Thats correct. Okay. I dont have anything further. Others . Thank you for your recounting and commissioner keane that helped me. I was going to come at this differently. Would you treat this request the same way . How would you treat the request that came from mr. Ringel . How would the department treat the request today . Its treaty similarly but since i have been appointed we made procedurally changes and added staff in my department to specifically target these types of Public Record well, all record requests really, and so we have a better procedure in place to identify those planner who is are involved with processing materials so in fact for example
Call everybodys attention to the fact that the regular meeting for august has been canceled, and there will be a special meeting on august 18 at 10 00 a. M. In room four one six to consider the report of the civil grand jury and the commissions response thereto. At this time i will take Public Comment on matters of not appearing on the agenda that are within the jurisdiction of the Ethics Commission. Members of the Ethics Commission. Ray hart director of San Francisco open open government. In 1964 and here in San Francisco Barry Goldwater accepted the nomination for president and his brief acceptance speech included items that were boiled down to the following. I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice and let me remind you moderation and the pursuit of justice is no virtue and i want to make it clear that any citizen including myself has the right to come here and tell you stuff that you dont want to hear and talk about your performance as members of this
Appearance . My understanding was that he was going to be here. He was going to be here . Yes. Commissioners, i am with the Planning Department. I am the director of Commission Affairs and custodian of record on the Planning Department. I am here on behalf of john rahaim. I wont need the 10 minutes afforded but i am here to respond to any questions you have. We conquer with the recommendation and respectfully find that john ion didnt will fully violate the ordinance. Mr. Ringel. All right. The matter has been called but you haveue want to be heard on it . May i ask a question . I thought maybe because the order we would have gone is let the complainant make his statement and you about i agree with you. Okay. Members of the commission hello. I apologize for being a little late. I first began interest in this case because the Planning Department was building they were approving a project across the street from my house so i was hold by a land use attorney to specifically request the enti