julie roginski and gideon resnick political reporter for the daily beast. noah, start us off here. commenting first from what we heard from the president. doesn t actually seem like things have gotten done at camp david, let s say. no resolution and he didn t talk about a resolution on the south lawn but i don t think we expected things to get done considering what was happening so far. no one was feeling positive about it so far. now saying, okay. going to be a steel barrier versus concrete. not really a big change. i suppose it s movement. cosmetic movement but indicative how superficial this entire showdown really is. the wall really isn t on the table. right? the original ask for the wall was $25 billion. we re talking about a fraction of that. even if they managed to secure that it weould go to only a little of that on the border. the president s is worried about his right frank.
you think so? security that they don t want to let him call it a wall. just a bit more of what we currently have or some technological improvements, e-verify, that s a good compromise. sees video of the vice president. definitely a working weekend to say the least in washington right now of the vice president walking out after a meeting with congressional leaders all day as he has been all weekend alongside him jared kushner and, of course, secretary nielsen as well. julie, give me your thoughts on what we heard from the president on the south lawn? interesting. to beth s point. democrats may be able to exchange daca for fencing. if you give him something, anything he s asking for it will make the next negotiation that much harder. the decision nancy pelosi, chuck schumer and respective conferences need to make, whether they give the president something to salt his own base and say we got the wall even though it s not really the wall, even though it s a few miles of fencing, be
these department of defense funds in order to get this wall built? is there anything this president has to prove this is actually a national emergency? he can declare it. make that declaration. outright? he will outright make a claim, no justification but there will be legal action taken. an injunction file. extraordinary steps to slow the process and get it through the courts and concurrently, remember, we have a democratic congress acting as a check and balance to this president. conduct oversight investigations, have hearings, parade every single administration official, a part of this decision, andprepared t so. absolutely pup looking at secretary nielsen, bringing her in to ask questions about the child deportation. inhumane treatments of children, prepared to have those meetings in the next couple weeks. guys, put that full-screen on what happens when the president actually declares a state of emergency.
of drugs, of human beings being trafficked all over the world. they re coming through and we have an absolute crisis and of criminals and gang members coming through. it is national security. it s a national emergency. [ indiscernible ]. we ll be letting you know fairly soon. all right. so if congress fails to secure funding for a border wall president trump says he may call a national emergency to actually get it build. that idea is getting major pushback from democrats. watch this. really threatening talk from the president that he doesn t have the power to execute. look, if harry truman couldn t nationalize the steel industry during wartime, this president doesn t have the power to declare an emergency and build a multibillion dollar wall on the border. so joining me now to break all of this down, the legalities of the president s emergency powers is lawrence lesic, harvard law school professor and christine greer at fordham,
mexico s going to pay for this. he s already starting in a hole. promised supporters, promised the american people if the wall got built mexico would pay. now in a different position. he has to ask congress to appropriate money for the wall. they already appropriate billions and billions for border security every year. there s already quite a bit of fencing across the southern border. hundreds of miles of it. in isn t completely out of the fwlou ask f ordinary to ask for a barrier. accept steel. accept a wall that wasn t hard concrete. perhaps it s movement and maybe democrats hearing that can say, okay. we can accept a few more hundred yards of fencing since we already have that down here anyway. if we can extract some sort of deal. interesting you say insurrection if daca was placed back on the table. from what we re hearing from the inside of these negotiations daca is back on the table. seems democrats if they get something in return would be willing to grant some sort of