making and public policy. do you feel like you re making progress and i think you re right about this. i think we re making huge progress. i think the wall is going to happen. the president is not going to yield on this. i think there will be some form of daca whether it includes chip or not i m not sure. i don t know how children s healthcare has anything to do with border security. the president may just be saying we ll pull it out and look at that separately. we don t want to confuse the issue. his round table in the oval office in the white house last week where he had feinstein and durbin around the same table. not the meeting that happened later but the big meeting. he said daca and border security in part one. comprehensive an hour later after we pass it. he is committed to doing something about it. the question is are democrats committed to it? they keep moving the goal post and keep playing games coming back saying we re interested now but not sure if it will work. it
it was put back into service. wow. all right, breaking on the border wall. some different views on the president s position. here is what is his chief of staff john kelly told our bret baier. this president, if you ve seen what he has done, he has changed the way he has looked at a number of things and adjusted the way he looked at afghanistan, he is very definitely changed his attitudes toward the daca issue and even the wall. while the president tweeted the wall is the wall. it has never changed or evolved from the first day i conceived of it. joining us is michael starr, democratic strategist and attorney and con trib tore to the hill and kevin mcculloch. i ll start with you. he said it was a wall from one end to the other. now he is saying what we all knew which is that there are
places he wants stronger security from end-to-end but there are places where that doesn t actually mean a wall. only non-nuanced people. though that the. why would you put a wall where the ocean is at the border. you have mountains. they were pushing back against permanent border barriers all together. they fought it when bush was in office and tried to establish fencing along the same path. it is more trumpish to say a wall instead of a fence. it seems like we re on the same page. why would democrats say no to this? i don t know if donald trump is on the same page. at this second now we re on the same page. this second why would democrats say no to more enforcement and beefing it up and something
that on. go early, go big and go now. jon: you think that freedom caucus members would join other house republicans in passing something out of the house? absolutely. that s the key. i m done. i think the american public is done with pussy footing around with the senate. that s the key is that we have to make people be big boys and girls and take votes. jon: what about the senate democrats contention that daca has to be part of any funding legislation? it s not. we promised the american people to build a wall, no amnesty and everything else. and we are going to live by those agreements. you have a conversation about immigration, it shouldn t be attached to a funding bill and it shouldn t be used as extortion. from that standpoint if that s what you want, then let s get it on right now because the leverage is on our side. do it now, don t wait until the very end the last moment when bad deals are done. let s do what the american
the president was pretty hot under the collar what kelly said on special report. when he returned to the white house last night the president told him that he was unhappy about it. now on daca it looks like we aren t going to get a deal this week. the white house is confident it will at some point. i m told negotiations on the hill do include the four points the president was talking about and the president reiterating this morning if there is no wall, there is no deal. one white house source i talked to said they re closer to a deal than a lot of people think and reporting that they are. john roberts, thank you. a lot to stay on top of. jon: a fox news alert going to take you to the pentagon now and there you see the beast. that s the president s armored limousine. president trump about to emerge. there he is. he has arrived at the pentagon for the nation s nuclear posture review. we understand the president is going to be making some comments. there is the vice president at his s