making and public policy. >> do you feel like you're making progress and i think you're right about this. >> i think we're making huge progress. i think -- the wall is going to happen. the president is not going to yield on this. i think there will be some form of daca whether it includes chip or not i'm not sure. i don't know how children's healthcare has anything to do with border security. the president may just be saying we'll pull it out and look at that separately. we don't want to confuse the issue. his round table in the oval office in the white house last week where he had feinstein and durbin around the same table. not the meeting that happened later but the big meeting. he said daca and border security in part one. comprehensive an hour later after we pass it. he is committed to doing something about it. the question is are democrats committed to it? they keep moving the goal post and keep playing games coming back saying we're interested now but not sure if it will work. >> it's politics. that's how it works. everybody is playing games.