vote, they re going to get a vote. i think they will get a vote on background checks. i think it was unwise to go for assault weapons. are they going to get 60 votes to break the filibuster? pat toomey wants to get something done. something modest that doesn t scare people. i m watching toomey. i know you are. because i think we ve been talking to our producers, it s really tricky where he stands. is he going to back gun safety in a state that s pro-gun like pennsylvania or not? i think they re going to ultimately get some sort of modest deal on gun safety. let me say, the rest of your question. on the budget i think he needs to leads on entitlement reform. he s done it. that s the start of the process. he s got to keep what about your side? should your guys give on revenues? taxes just went up. for the rich. 1%. it hurt economic growth. i think you need you keep pulling this number. i said no rhetoric tonight. you keep saying taxes are going up on the top
just expressed there? i doubt it. i think wayne lapierre has a job that he s doing, which is kind of increase his membership, represent his members and aggressively put forth the idea that nothing really serious should happen on gun control. i think he s kind of i don t think wayne lapierre has done a particularly good job i think a better spokesman for the national rifle association would be david keene, a political guy that communicates in a way that doesn t scare people. i think wayne lapierre is more ways than one is trying to scare people. david john, to you on this. david keene, how would he change that narrative, that emotion that s been brought up so far, the fear, now, diane black is saying that the president is trying to use fear here? i think there s a lot of problems on both sides.
of security because of the clown show that was the republican nomination process. and i think they thought not only thought, but they would say it every day, privately, look who we re up against? and they woke up, and they are up against a moderate republican that doesn t scare people. in the middle. he does have you re right, and ii think chris is right, he does have this in him. one of my favorite anecdotes is when his stepfather taught him how to box, and he kept getting knocked down and he kept getting up and punched his stepfather again and again until he won. that s the guy who beat hillary. that s the guy who at the age of 44 became president of the united states. and he has to recover that. but he has to have some joy in the fight. all of the guys that we admire in national politics, whether it s chris jack kennedy or fdr or ronald reagan, they loved the arena. and i just don t get the
the biggest fear in the white house that they have an alternative that doesn t scare people. and right now what scares people is what s happening. it s a challenge. i tell you, this election is so tricky to predict. and i look at mitt romney who is so calm and not scary. and i look at him. and if he puts christie on the ticket and able to reach in on the kind of voters the governor was talking about in ohio and pennsylvania, it s not new jersey, that s a hard one to pull with them. get this guy from the northeast who connects with reagan democrats. it s not hispanics who decide this election, it s going to be the different ethnic group people who have been voting democrat and republican back and forth, probably split for obama last time. but this time they re uneasy about him. pick those men and women off. take pennsylvania. challenge pennsylvania even, but pick up ohio. that s how they do it. and the democratic strategy of going off to virginia and north carolina and try to pick up th