submitting missed information, doing whatever they could to make that administration look better than they should have looked. it was incredible what they were doing. even we had people testify that they were ordered to delete certain things. and in at least five instances we saw where there were deletions and delays. it was absolutely terrible. i was truck in looking at the report how many times when you interviewed cdc officials and cdc scientists they would all say some version of i have worked at cdc for x years, for x decades. nothing like this ever happened before. the fact that this was so unprecedented, that the cdc was so walled off from political interference, i wonder if you came to think that might have been something that made them
and in at least five instances we saw where there were deletions and delays. it was absolutely incredible. i was struck in looking at the report how many times when you interviewed cdc officials and cdc scientists they would all say some version of i have worked at cdc for x years, for x decades. nothing like this ever happened before. the fact that this was so unprecedented, that the cdc was so walled off from political interference, i wonder if you came to think that might have been something that made them more vulnerable to this kind of meddling because they didn t have antibodies against hit. they never had to confront this kind of corruption before. i think that s a good it. they never had to confront this kind of corruption before. i think that s a good conclusion to draw. these are scientists. these are people who believe their purpose is to protect the american people.
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divisions. and glenn gerstell who served as general counsel to the national security agency and central security service. great to have you on both. glenn, let me start with you, as someone who plaque just law for the government in very high echelons of one of the most secretive agencies we have, the nsa. from that perspective, anything jump out to you about what we did see about the redactions today? well, the redactions covered up a lot. but they also revealed a lot too. so, i think there s some important nuggets and some information in the affidavit that still remained that s really significant. most importantly, for me, it s a fact, what jumped out, after reviewing this affidavit, even with all the deletions, and understanding which details associated with the information that was in the 15 boxes that were returned to the national archives back in january, understanding that nature of
don t make a scene in an airport to humiliate the individual for a misdemeanor. the same for a processed crime in the case of manafort or roger stone, certainly a message was sentom here. but here s where the doublee standard comes in. this is why hunter h biden is important. this is why hillary clinton sry thirty three thousand c email deletions are important. dossiershy the dirty are important. this is why lying on fisa are important. i if i ever lied to a judge, i think i d be taken out in handcuffs and shackles to this t is why would sandy berger did is important. now america has a right to ask, okay, why did you do this? c becausean i can t conceive of what would warrant the attorney general of the united states and the fbi sta directoro allow and approve this action. can i think of what they might have in the past? let me john sean, let me let me let you in on a dirty secret.