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Transcripts for MSNBC Deadline White House 20240604 21:26:00

and bill barr. the durham probe is what s been publicly reported by investigative journalists, it appears to be the most broken and corrupt investigation in doj history. even that one found that the only person who may have committed a crime was trump. durham found evidence that trump i mean, how confident are you that after four years of being beaten up and delegitimized by trump that the rule of law in america is strong enough to hold him accountable before he becomes president again, if that is where this country decides to go? well, you know, there s something that is optimistic about today s verdict, which is unlike a lot of other countries, the american people sit on juries. the determination as to whether somebody is guilty or not guilty, whether someone in a civil case is liable or not liable is made by us. it is made by american people, and we have faith in their

Transcripts for MSNBC Deadline White House 20240604 21:02:00

illegal. he didn t care, and today he celebrates those who attacked our capitol. donald trump has proven he is unfit for office. donald trump is a risk america can never take again. hi again, everybody. it s 5:00 in new york. that is the brand new message people in new hampshire, the first gop primary state will wake up to tomorrow morning. how the current front runner for the gop s 2024 presidential nomination remains a persistent threat to our country, our country s democracy, and our national security voiced by former congresswoman and top trump adversary liz cheney who is fulfilling her promise to do whatever she can, whatever it takes to stop trump from ever getting near the oval office again. cheney s words potentially a road map for special counsel jack smith who we know is deep into his twin investigations

Transcripts for MSNBC Deadline White House 20240604 20:17:00

over the course of the arguing of this case were e. jean carroll s lawyers making arguments that went to the krenlt of trump on the sexual assault suit but were also the keys to this defamation suit. we heard them arguing not just that there was a pattern and practice of assaulting women but rather that there was also a pattern and practice of telling known lies, which is the core of this case, the defamation piece of this case anyway. here the jury has concluded not just that trump told a lie, told a falsehood and not that just that falsehood damaged carroll s reputation, but also that it was told knowingly, that is that it was a deliberate falsehood, that when he said it he knew it wasn t true. this is a really staggeringly high constitutional barrier that is employed in cases involving

Transcripts for MSNBC Deadline White House 20240604 21:15:00

they need to open up a new avenue of attack on donald trump and perhaps chris christie s right, perhaps the ideal that republicans cannot win with him has more traction than he is a bad actor. and on that bad actor side, this is jamie raskin, andrews weissman talking about what he s facing in terms of criminal exposure. four members of the proud boys were just convicted of seditious conspiracy this week, and in their defense, they all pointed the finger at the former president. is it conceivable that special counsel jack smith could be considering seditious conspiracy charges against trump? absolutely. i mean, that s not a defense. i mean, if you re accused of conspiracy to overthrow the government or put down the government of the united states, which is what seditious conspiracy means. it s not a defense to say somebody else told me to do it or somebody else was involved in the conspiracy. trump could very much have been part of the proud boys or the

Transcripts for MSNBC Deadline White House 20240604 20:18:00

public figures of these sorts, both key players here are high profile public figures. and it s very, very rare for there to be such a holding, a holding that there was knowing falsity spoken by someone of this caliber. it s really in and of itself a quite historic moment. well, wow, let s not gloesz over that. mary mccord that you have a jury, as andrew said there s some copious reporting as well that this jury included some publicly proud maga supporters. found unanimously that trump knowingly lied and awarded $1 million in damages other than the reputation repair program, another 1.7. what does it say to you that even people within that movement know that trump knowingly lies and that those lies do grave damage to the people he lies about? well, i think it says two

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