they often say to ensure that it's better than tep people guilty go free than one innocent people be convicted. there's a lot of lights and yet as yo say, we see donald trump attacking that very system that has all of those wfts for hill. you do see repeatedly judges and others bend over backwards despite his attacks on them to protect the system. but it's like what most criminal defense attorneys would tell you. their job is to preserve the institution, to protect the constitution, ask make sure the system works, because it has to work if it's going to work against people who are actually innocent. we'll see where donald trump falls within that spectrum. >> i also think a big part of what he's trying to do is to condition the public. if he can undermine the legitimacy of the court, if he's convicted, you can say i told you all along the court was illegitimate. we should not take any respect