wheeler. the first time i talked to him was february 23rd. so this nonsense that he said he had been pinpointed is all bs. rod wheeler wasn t pinpointed. rod wheeler spoke to the riches for two weeks back and forth way contract. the whole contract negotiation, chris, according to rod wheeler was erin rich and aaron risch s wife saying don t ever look into wikileaks. don t ever talk about e-mails. if you listen and go to debunking rod wheeler s claims.com, there s a 27-minute audio there of rod wheeler stating all of this. so rod wheeler then is now involved. there wasn t any of this nonsense that he s talking about coordination, trying to do bad things to him. he knows an all of that. rod wheel ser broke and he s trying to make some money out of extorting maybe me, maybe fox, who knows. but the facts are will, none of this stuff is adding up to rod wheel ser claiming. . is that your full answer?
important enough to take to spicer. did he know why you wanted to meet with him? no. so he just took a meeting. i said had i something to talk to him about. rod wheeler was a tag along. at the last minute, i said why don t you join me and kind of get to know sean and meet and so on. my conversation with sean about this recording lasted about one minute. he said ed, i don t know anything about if. i don t want to know anything about it. we ended up talking about many other things. believe it or not, including because he and i both get our shirts at the same place through some company. we talked about the new cotton material on these shirts. that s the truth. do you think it s coincidental that there seem to be these meetings that trump officials take they don t note anything about but they take it anyway and when they get into it they wind up changing the subject away from something else?
we re taking you at your word right now. we ll have to see if there s backup. let me ask you if this existed. i ll send you anything. you should send. anytime. send all of the proof of everything that you re suggesting right now. i can t believe it s not out already. i m going to come up there will tomorrow and hand it to you, all right? i m easy to find. let me ask you something about this. did this happen? did the sean spicer meeting happen or is wheeler making that up? yeah, great question. so i ve shown sean. i was a surrogate for the rnc, and not really that will used that often, by the way. but i was a surrogate. i got to know sean a little bit. and there s a recording of a man named cy hersh that you need to see. seymour hersh. seymour hersh. i didn t know who the man was. after i met the riches and offered to pay the bill for a private investigator, and by the way this whole idea that will something was coo coordinated with rod wheeler, that s absolute nonse
and they said, we would love to. we can t afford one. you know what, chris? you don t know the me but a lot of people out there do. you know what i said? i said i ll pay for it. now, i m not a rich guy. i m not some rich donor. i don t know why you guys keep saying that because i m not rich at all. i said you know what? i d be happy to pay for it. i thought as most people would say, no thank you, we don t know the you. they said yes. and i said, oh. i had no idea how much a private detective cost. i started asking, who knows anybody who is a private detective. i got recommended rod wheeler by somebody. i have an e-mail exchange that i ll share with you. they said why don t you meet rod wheeler. the first time i talked to him was february 23rd. so this nonsense that he said he had been pinpointed is all bs. rod wheeler wasn t pinpointed. rod wheeler spoke to the riches for two weeks back and forth way contract. the whole contract negotiation,
evidence that rod wheeler was misquoted. ed butowsky told cnn it was all just a joke. and today white house press secretary sara sanders pushed back on allegations an the white house played a role in this scheme. the president had no knowledge of the story and it s completely untrue he or the white house involvement in the story. reporter: randy kay, cnn, new york. joining us now in a live exclusive is ed but the 2000 ski the man named in that lawsuit. sir, thank you for joining us. thanks for giving me an opportunity. that setup, i wish i was taking notes. i d love to go through each one of those and prove what nonsense that is. please fire away, chris. let me help you do that right now. there s a lot of spin out there. let s try to create a record of fact going in order of what matters most here. the suggestion that the president was aware of the story, he may have seen it in advance, that he had a profound interest in its advancement,