see. seymour hersh. seymour hersh. i didn t know who the man was. after i met the riches and offered to pay the bill for a private investigator, and by the way this whole idea that will something was coo coordinated with rod wheeler, that s absolute nonsense. i interviewed tons of different private investigators. one thing at a time. the sean spicer meeting, did it happen. i ll go back to it. i have a tendency to do that. i apologize. did it happen. the sean spicer meeting. > i had a meeting with sean spicer. i brought rod chile r wheeler along. it was about this audio recording that cy hersh of cy hersh saying there s a mirror copy of the hard drive of seth rich s at the cart division at the i don t know if. you know hersh says you got his reporting wrong, right? he says you took two and two and made 45 out of it. you know what? cy hersh, maybe that s his math
russia had hacked the dnc. the story was later retracked from the fox news website, but the story was also far from over. let s get more now from cnn s randi kaye. reporter: when democratic national committee staffer seth rich was killed, a conspiracy was born, caught up in it, this man. i do believe i was used as a pawn in this entire thing. reporter: his name is rod wheeler. he s a former dc homicide detective and fox news contributor. and now he s filed a lawsuit against fox news. wheeler claims he was used to help fabricate a story connecting the murder of seth rich to the wikileaks release of thousands of e-mails from the democratic national committee. the idea being that rich was murdered by some sort of dnc operative in retaliation for the leaks. all of this despite the fact that police say rich s murder was the result of a botched burglary and that this is key, authorities had already
and he leaked the story to her the night before. she wrote a lot of stuff. and i have a text message showing rod saying i need to sue fox 5 because they misquoted me. so now fox 5 misquoted rod wheeler. and then you got to bring in this lawyer womened wigdoor who sues fox for anything, he s been on your channel many times. the combination of rod wheeler being broke, lying and wigdoor putting a case together against fox, now you have a lawsuit that you re quoting that s full of nonsense. you know, ed, why are you getting critical questioning here? because it matters. why does it matter? of course it matters. in part because fox news has come under the microscope for its journalism in part but there s a bigger reason i think. it has nothing to do with politics or the media. you went to the rich family. they were in grieving. they were hurting. they had the worst kind of scenario. they lost a loved one and didn t know what happened.
but the reality is i m not saying anything. listen to it and listen to his own words. i m not concluding anything at all, chris. i m just saying when the source of the material says that your conclusion about it was wrong it should be out there in public space. what s my conclusion? i don t have a conclusion. you saw it as something important enough to take to spicer. did he know why you wanted to meet with him? no. so he just took a meeting. i said had i something to talk to him about. rod wheeler was a tag along. at the last minute, i said why don t you join me and kind of get to know shaup and meet and so on. my conversation with sean about this recording lasted about one minute. he said ed, i don t know anything about if. i don t want to know anything about it. we ended up talking about many other things. believe it or not, including because he and i both get our shirts at the same place through some company. we talked about the new cotton material on these shirts.
suggested his death was retribution for his supposed leak. the private investigator enlisted to develop the story now claims it was all designed to discredit u.s. intelligence which, of course determined that russia had hacked the dnc. the story was later retracked from the fox news website, but the story was also far from over. let s get more now from cnn s randi kaye. reporter: when democratic national committee staffer seth rich was killed, a conspiracy was born, caught up in it, this man. i do believe i was used as a pawn in this entire thing. reporter: his name is rod wheeler. he s a former dc homicide detective and fox news contributor. and now he s filed a lawsuit against fox news. wheeler claims he was used to help fabricate a story connecting the murder of seth rich to the wikileaks release of thousands of e-mails from the democratic national committee.