the real thing. look, this is going i love it. this is going to be, though, a big debate point on that democratic primary stage in 2020, isn t it? i don t even think it s going to be a debate point. you either embrace the label and own it and be a player or be like andrew cuomo and off on the sidelines and irrelevant. that s where this is going. when you really look at what that so-called socialist platform is, and nixon is right, they re going to accuse us of being communists before all is said and done. basically it s access to health care and access to education. these are things people actually like. if you go down item by item, people actually wanting these things. donald trump may not, he doesn t want his taxes to go up, but everybody else kind of does. i want to have that debate. let them talk about what it means to be a socialist. we re not the party being bought and paid for by russia. we are the party that is looking out for americans and america. i m curious mess
provides a reason for us to be wrong. i think that it serves as a reflex for people who could not accept that we were the victims. so the talk would turn to terror, and our suffering, the counterargument would be, but you torture, and that is immoral and we are bigger and better than that. which is not a debate point. it is not a fact. it is an emotion. in the old days stuff like this was not up for discussion. you did not argue about these things, but america has changed. we are so naval gaze and about our own sins that we actually pulled this thing, waterboarding, this arbitrary action in which you are temporarily choking somebody as if that is worse than dropping the bomb on hiroshima or droning cities, how is something like that worse than pulling out people s fingernails? it is an arbitrary tool that does not kill you, but we are using this thing is a symbol to
who warned the trumpsi administration, there is potential leaking and blackmailing situations like someone who is general flynn tucker: i just want you to say unequivocally you should not break the law by spying on u.s. citizens and then leaking illegally the contents of those conversations to the washington post. if we cannot agree that s the bad thing, what s the basis of our conversation? just agree that that is out of bounds. it should be. any citizen has privacyis rights that we should respect. general flynn may have crossed the line. at the same time, i am willing to investigate and actually look at this at the full scope of what occurred there. if hise violations dash that should also be remedied to. at the same time, tucker: that s not a debate point, we know that is a factual matter. the law was violated. let s just say that.
in the government, and the assistant attorney general warned the trump administration, there is potential leaking and blackmailing situations like someone who is demonic , general flynn tucker: i just want you to say unequivocally you should not break the law by spying on u.s. citizens and then leaking illegally the contents of those conversations to the washington post. if we cannot agree that s the bad thing, what s the basis of our conversation? just agree that that is out of bounds. it should be. any citizen has privacy rights that we should respect. general flynn may have crossed the line. i am willing to look at this and the whole scope, if there is a violation that actually occurred, at the same time tucker: that s not a debate point, we know that is a factual matter. the law was violated.
remember during the convention lock her up. lock her up, lock her up. and he kind of tried to quiet it a little at the convention because he was in presidential mode. now this was a primary campaign debate to me tonight and what he was doing was rallying the base by saying lock her up effectively, which he did also, calling her a liar multiple times and the devil. multiple times. and saying he d put her in jail. and he said she had hate in her heart. i don t think that s going to play very well with voters. i think what happened was he said i m throwing out the playbook and i m going with, as you point out, i m going with the material that s worked for me when i go out there and speak to these rallies. this line of prosecuting hillary clinton is something he s used in his rallies. this is not a new idea. he just raised it to the level of a debate point here. and my guess is it will resonate well with his base and it will antagonize the people he needs