of individuals, and some of them would have very skimpy insurance coverage at a low price, but it might not help them when they get sick and then there would be the group of people who have serious medical problems, and they re premiums and deductibles would go sky high. such that it would insurance would be unaffordable for many of them. so you still have the death spiral even with their amendment. their amendment gives more freedom. i m for their amendment, but in the context of keeping most of the obamacare regulations, you will still have a death spiral. that s why even the cruz amendment people saying, oh, we need more money in the insurance bailout fund because the cruz amendment will cost us a lot of taxpayer money to try to stabilize insurance markets. all right. a summerization of ted cruz s amendment there. stephen what is the matter with, you know what some are calling a bailout fund? others are calling a stabilizing
pinpoint one thing. for example, maybe around january or february when you thought of russia you might have thought of michael flynn. i think what it s leading about 48% of americans not to trust president donald trump at all is that there seems to be multiple layers to this russia situation and the past week is a perfect example when we got at least three different stories in as many days regarding this specific meeting. as people find out more information, more information that comes public, there are nor questions that the american people have. mr. ambassador, before we let you go i want to talk about health care now we know this potential vote will be pushed back. we know that you were an opponent of the senate bill, the first one that came out and now a revised bill with the cruz amendment. i want to read for you something that trump campaign economic adviser steven more now a cnn economic analyst wrote for cnn.com. it s smart and doesn t take
within that small slice, everyone, everyone, every objective expert, consumer, insurers policy expert, every single one said the cruz amendment would have the affect of fracturing insurance markets creating low costs, skimpy insurance plans for young healthy plans and unaffordable generous plans for sick people. it s not wait, stephen. let jonathan finish. go ahead, jonathan? it s a matter of opinion, seems the point you re making is the government will force you to buy an insurance plan you don t want and can t afford. the reason we have an election for people voted, it was a mandate to get rid of obamacare because the people can t afford it. the idea of giving people more affordable plans. why are you against that? we are not against giving people i don t want to speak for ron. i m not against people getting more affordable plans. obama did not deliver the afford
fund, as we just heard from jonathan? well, let s start with the realization that the cruz amendment, which i actually think is the best feature of the senate bill, because when nobody s mentioned is 90% of americans are going to face lower costs, not higher costs. remember, the reason obamacare is such a fiasco, it s not minor problems. minor problems would be like saying the titanic took a bad turn and ran into the iceberg. the obamacare numbers are killing families right now. the average family is paying $3,000 more a year for insurance. they can t afford it. so what the cruz amendment will do for 90% of people with insurance, dramatically reduce their costs. that s something that we now there will be people with preexisting conditions that need support and there is money for that in the bill, and people with health problems will be put in a separate inspururance pool
the goal of the cruz amendment, add more competition and to drive down premiums. and people will say that that could happen for those who are healthier, who are younger, who don t need these comprehensive packages, but everything i ve heard from the experts say that people with pre-existing conditions are going to lose. their premiums are going to skyrocket. well, as you and i have talked about before, i am somebody with a pre-existing condition. i was a cancer survivor. we want to make sure people with pre-existing conditions are covered. but if you don t break down the way that the obamacare model is structured and if you don t break it out of a single risk pool, you cannot possible drive the prices down. what happened was senator cruz s amendment and what senator lee and he were working on was creating an environment where you could get folks in a high risk pool but then break it down so people could have competitive plans. but the senator leadership left