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out loud. i think mike has been very badly hurt by what took place with respect to january 6th. i think he s been i think he s been mortally wounded, frankly, because i see the reaction he s getting from people. david, why do sources familiar with david chalian s thinking think this is so notable? listen, we know there is no love lost here this year since january 6th between donald trump and mike pence. and trump has been out there sort of questioning, still smarting over the fact that pence didn t go through with his attempted coup plan that trump had depfvised for him that penc followed the constitutional order probably in terms of counting the electoral votes. what i find amazing about this, now donald trump is stepping up this game. he s trying to ensure mike pence doesn t have a political future in the republican party. he is, by saying he s mortally wounded, and by the way, trump s
forces intelligence and security committee. you interviewed with rachel maddow in our studio on that day. i wonder what you are making of this report from the select committee? hi nicolle, thank for having me on. it is shocking but also shouldn t be shocking because this is exactly what we have been hearing and seeing since january 6th, that donald trump and his enablers attempted to overthrow an election and stop our democratic process, period. there is a power pointed and documents circulated that they took this plan, this insurrection, this coup plan, and put it into a power point presentation, were trying to solicit support for it by using these documents. it is surely shocking. but this is a continued evidence. this is not over. er with not talking about history here. this outline as lot of the same things that donald trump and his supporters continue to try to
didn t expect could fill a sizable library full of books, but this week alone trump world was caught off guard with several new revolutions about his time in office, the first was a memo that showed the trump campaign was fully aware that the election fraud and voting machine lies they were spreading and continue to spread were completely made up. but the most damning information reportedly illustrated just how determined trump was to carry out an actual coup d état. a lawyer on the trump team apparently drafted a six-point plan to have vice president mike pence overturn the election on january 6th with the cooperation of republicans in the congress. according to the new book peril, when pence refused to go along with trump s treasonous coup plan, the former president reacted in the way he knows
prosecutions at a higher level, including donald trump, i wonder if there is no way that even the most damning possible report by this inquiry makes a difference if folks aren t actually prosecutors. there are real consequences for people with power. yeah, people ought to be prosecuted. of course it s going to be under the cloud of a possible future trump presidency where you would very clearly use his pardon power to wipe out those convictions. so the criminal justice system ought to be pursued, but it s a cram shoot. i think that what democrats need to understand is the magnitude of this threat and the fact that it is a legitimate use of their power to change the laws, for example, that will allow this kind of gamesmanship, were the kind of things that we saw in that john eastman memo, which by the way needs to get a lot more attention. they put it in writing. they put their coup plan in writing. we have it. i don t know why it s not on the front page of every newspaper in the coun