stelter. what do you make of this extensive indictment? it proves everything that we believed to be true, everything that the senate and house intelligence committees said was true, everything that the president of the united states denied and dismissed. all of our reporting has been born out. everything that facebook, google, twitter, have said about the involvement they said has been born out in this indictment. and now with rod rosenstein coming out, it s no longer something that the president can run away from. what he is doing is saying, look, there s no evidence of collusion. no one has proven collusion yet, anyway. the salient point is that foreign actors were able to use our social media networks, our digital platforms in order to meddle in our elections and, more than that, they can still do that and are still doing that. and that s a real threat for 2018, 2020 elections in the future. you ask, what do these social
indictment says no one wittingly worked with the russians, that there was some unwitting participation on behalf of trump campaign associates and aides but no one wittingly. so you can imagine that the white house would want to come out and say, look, doesn t this show there s no collusion? but can they come out and say that? i don t think we can take that there s no collusion in what mueller was looking at. he said these people were not aware they were helping russian officials. that does not mean that there s no part of mueller s investigation that has not found some kind of collusion. we don t have the full sense of what he was looking at. in addition to pointing that out, i would be surprised, shocked if the white house did not note rod rosenstein saying this did not affect the outcome of the election. unclear to me how he feels like he can draw that conclusion based on this kind of interference. but that is certainly something that will resonate with the president. he has viewed
agreements between the campaign and the russian government, is not a crime. right. under most circumstances. and there s no crime except under anti-trust law involving coll collusion. what is a value to the campaign. i hear you. the white house now add ace new guy. from all i ve read, very high-powered, experience white collar defense attorney, ty cobb. how does this change their approach? is this pushing kosowitz out? i don t know whether he s in or out. that s beyond my knowledge at this point. the purpose of hiring ty cobb is to keep an organized face on all these inquiries. that doesn t answer whether, a, he will have access to donald trump to get answers when questions come up and, b, whether trump will continue
have been involved. i think it illustrates how the defenders of trump and the trump campaign don t know all the facts. none of us do. that s why the story keeps evolving the way it does. you have said on our air, this is the administration and their attorneys, jay sekulow in this case, moving the defense lines back. haven t they moved them back as far as you can go? as far as you can go is, well, it wasn t illegal. they re sort of like, okay we can do it again. it wasn t a high cream and misdemeanor justifying impeachment. that s the next line of defense. that s true but i mean, they do have some good arguments. it is still not clear whether any crime was committed, even if you believe more sinister interpretations of what the trump campaign was doing. right. we hear this word over and over again, collusion, collusion, which is sort of
400-pound guy in a bed in new jersey. right. he calls into question whether or not the whole russian thing is a lie. i think today there s a big piece of evidence from his own justice department put forward that it is not. i brought this up to the white house official today. they said whenever he said russia thing was a hoax he was speaking specifically about collusion and not meddling. i said it would be good if he could clarify that. the russia hopes continues. now ads on facebook. what about the totally bias and media b. a s in favor of crooked hillary? it didn t say anything about coll collusion here. the president could go out there and say forcefully and publicly that a foreign government meddled in our election, tried to influence our election. that is not acceptable. here are the steps that we are taking to ensure that this is never happening again, to ensure that we can protect our election integrity.