as of hero in the aftermath after 9/11. but giuliani has since morphed into a prominent per var of lies that the election was stolen about former president donald trump and it all culminated today in that chaotic scene before a scrum of reporters outside of a county jail. joining me now is former georgia state senator jen jordan. she testified in the fulton county grand jury earlier this month. also with us is former chief speech righter for mayor giuliani and cnn s own political analyst john avlon. john, giuliani teed it up well. he is known for all of these things. how could it come to this, that he is turning himself into a county jail on r.i.c.o. charges? it s a surreal series of tragedies, twists of fate that were utterly unimaginable. when you look at the mugshot
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rick hansen it is an election law he is the author of chief speech, how disinformation poisons our politics, and how to curate. and he just write an analysis of how to identify and minimize the risk of election stealing, for the harvard law review. rick, it s great to see you again, thank you for joining us. i want to talk to you tonight because of the big question, not about what happened in 2020, but what has happened since 2020. one of the risks of a successful coup attempt within the next few election cycles in this country? have we done anything to shore up our elections to, prevent a repeat of 2020 successfully. well, the first thing i d say, is i m not so worried about 2022 as i am about 2024. because the united states presidential election is uniquely open to influence. those stole many steps between people voting, and congress ultimately determining who the winner is. there is lots of room for people to act in bad faith.
possible. we also learned that his team tried to wait till the latest possible moment on january 6th, to say publicly, that he was going to refuse to do what trump wanted, and he certified the electoral college results. still, pence got as cases that line as he could, and in cross, it and he will have to pay the consequences. betsy woodruff swan, i was always great reporting, thanks for joining us with those details, greatly appreciated. rick hansen it is an election law he is the author of chief speech, how disinformation poisons our politics, and how to curate. and he just write an analysis of how to identify and minimize the risk of election stealing, for the harvard law review. rick, it s great to see you again, thank you for joining us. i want to talk to you tonight because of the big question, not about what happened in 2020, but what has happened since 2020. one of the risks of a successful coup attempt within the next few election cycles in