disturbing. and so i think they re taking the right the right tack on this. i just i applaud them for coming out so strongly. and, you know, the fact that their charging or at least alleging that some of these officers simply didn t say anything about it, would be an indication of how severe the situation is. well we are also joined now by joey jackson, criminal defense attorney. to steve s point there, we ve seen police departments react to these events differently over time. we ve seen juries react, i think you made that point around the time of the chauvin trial, more open to holding police accountable it seems over time. and i wonder, are you seeing that as well? yeah, i really am, jim. i think we re in a new era of
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