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Nbc news, a source close to cohn said the decision to resign was abrupt. Entirely due to irreconcilable differences based on trumps tariff plan. The white house said today the president will sign the plan by the end of this week. Both democrats and republicans have warned of the risk of a trade war. Axios reports cohn considered the announcement a personal embarrassment. He had boasted to his wall street and hamptons buddies he had kept the president on the right track on trade. Theres growing alarm now of a potential brain drain at the white house coordinating to the associated press. Cohns departure sparked fears of a larger exodus. The president tried to preempt the concerns yesterday. Lets watch. The white house has tremendous energy, tremendous spirit. It is a great place to be working. Many, many people want every single job. I read where, gee, maybe people times. The times is reporting President Trump spoke to witnesses about matters they discussed with Special Counsel robert mu

when we talk about closing the border. we are not talking about closing commerce or people driving back and forth in traffic lanes or presenting themselves for asylum at ports of entry, but it s all about people crossing illegally. still, because of the international right to claim asylum this country has followed for so long, since world war ii, we are expecting legal challenges as monica pointed out. i spoke to two border patrol agents in the area today, and they are worried about unintended consequences, the carveouts and if they will have to keep people in custody longer while they determine whether or not they are eligible to be sent back and whether or not mexico will agree to take back all the migrants that won t be eligible. anytime there s a new policy, there s a fear if the numbers get too high it could cause

challenges, and this is a provision that in some ways would have been part of the larger bipartisan border bill that was ultimately torpedoed by senate republicans at the urging of former president trump, and that would have given him congressional authority to do this, and now he s going the lateral route and could face more hurdles, and because it s such a challenge and the white house wants to come out and the president will say today likely that they are doing everything they can to try and stem the flow of illegal migration while noting some important humanitarian carveouts that will be part of this, we expect, for instance, for unaccompanied minors crossing the border alone or for victims of human trafficking. what is the reaction you are observing there at the border, and how exactly would this be

effect, the plan is that if daily encounters reach 2500 a day, people trying to cross into the united states at not at a port of entry, then that would trigger this rule and the average as we understand it is about 4,000. effectively this rule could be used as of today to keep people from being able to get into the united states, to seek asylum. there are some carveouts, some exceptions to this rule, fairly decent list of them that people will be able to reference, a credible fear and that would trigger a different sort of investigation. as we understand as well, this rule is a temporary one. this would be temporary so if the border encounters dip down to 1500 daily over a sustained period of time, seven days as we understand it, then the order would go away, that shutdown would end until there comes a point in time where that number

we re right around 4,000 daily crossings according to department of homeland security officials. if it comes back down to something around on average 1,500 people then the border would reopen and they would reassess. and the president in his remarks did hint that he may have some other measures to roll out in the coming weeks about trying, he argued, to make the immigration system fairer. but we know, katy, that really this is about a political vulnerability as well as the policy aspects to all this. what about the courts here? because donald trump tried something similar in 2018, monica, the courts blocked it. the aclu is already promising the biden administration on this one. there s a decent chance of an injunction before this power can go into effect. they had to have known that. they re fully bracing for that. and in fact, they studied specifically what the former president tried to do and they tried to have some humanitarian carveouts and make some adjustments so they believe

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