that door is bulletproof. you can t kick it down, you can t knock it down, you can t wish it down. it s got to have the right configuration, or no entry at all. jim tillman, former airplane pilot, aviation expert, very clarifying to have you here tonight. thank you very much. my pleasure. joining us is jim hall, the former chairman of the national transportation safety board. mr. hall, thank you very much for being with us tonight. glad to be with you, rachel. i guess i would just ask basically your reaction to these latest reported details from the new york times, and what captain tilmon just said there, in terms of what that might indicate about what happened in this crash. well, rachel, if the information is correct, it s most unfortunate. we had a situation while i was chairman of the ntsb of egypt air of which it was the opinion of the national transportation safety board that the co-pilot had put the airplane in a dive to crash it after the captain
switch is in the right position to allow entry into the cockpit from the cabin. and that switch not being in the right position would mean there s nothing you can do. that door is bulletproof. you can t kick it down you can t knock it down you can t wish it down. it s got to have the right configuration, or no entry at all. jim tillmon, very clarifying to have you here tonight. thank you very much. my pleasure. joining us is jim hall the former chairman of the national transportation safety board. thank you for being with us tonight. glad to be with you, rachel. i guess i would just ask basically your reaction to these latest reported details from the new york times, and what captain tilmon just said there, in terms of what that might indicate of what happened in this crash. well rachel if the information is correct, it s most unfortunate. we had a situation while i was chairman of the ntsb which it
here s the point, gentlemen that we need to consider. if and when we find the data recorder it will tell us definitively what happened. because if it took a series of steps, which i believe it did, to put this plane into a controlled dive then that would argue against a medical emergency. i mean, did he remove the plane from autopilot? if there was a series of steps that would be reflected in the data recorder then that raises a very that is what was required a series of steps. i think i m agreeing with captain tilmon. you would have to have a series of steps. the plane was wings level, steady flight straight in. but if there was more than one step then we have a very serious issue. everybody, we just got a response from lufthansa.
configuration, or no entry at all. jim tillmon, very clarifying to have you here tonight. thank you very much. my pleasure. joining us is jim hall, the former chairman of the national transportation safety board. thank you for being with us tonight. glad to be with you, rachel. i guess i would just ask basically your reaction to these latest reported details from the new york times, and what captain tilmon just said there, in terms of what that might indicate of what happened in this crash. well, rachel, if the information is correct, it s most unfortunate. we had a situation while i was chairman of the ntsb which it was the opinion of the national transportation safety board that the co-pilot had put the airplane in a dive to crash it after the captain left the flight deck. it was for that reason we made a
right, jim? yes. we re not talking the hudson river here. we re talking about an ocean that has all kinds of waves and all kinds of other challenges, as you say to do a soft landing. i think that would not be my first choice if i was the captain on that airplane. i can t imagine why he would want to even try it. les, what makes this for investigators so difficult and certainly reporting on this is every possible scenario you can raise questions and poke holes in every scenario leads to certain things that should have happened that did not happen. so there s no clean scenario where it could be said this likely happened. i mean, we have a homicide investigation without a victim. this is a difficult problem. difficult problem. les, it s good to have you on. ron brown, jim tilmon as well. just ahead we ll talk to the family of paul weeks. father of two he left behind his wedding ring and a watch on this