configuration, or no entry at all. >> jim tillmon, very clarifying to have you here tonight. thank you very much. >> my pleasure. >> joining us is jim hall, the former chairman of the national transportation safety board. thank you for being with us tonight. >> glad to be with you, rachel. >> i guess i would just ask basically your reaction to these latest reported details from "the new york times," and what captain tilmon just said there, in terms of what that might indicate of what happened in this crash. >> well, rachel, if the information is correct, it's most unfortunate. we had a situation while i was chairman of the ntsb which it was the opinion of the national transportation safety board that the co-pilot had put the airplane in a dive to crash it after the captain left the flight deck. it was for that reason we made a