Phoebe with ambassador taylor, was he assesssatisfied that thie was now behindti him . I dont really know, because when i responded, get ahold of the secretary, and he said i agree. I never knew i whether he reach out to the secretaryhe or not. That was sort of the end at one point in the text you said lets get on the phone, you said youre an individual that doesnt like to walk through these issues on texts when you can talk about it on the 1 telephone, correct . I say that to everybody when something becomes more substantive than a few lines of text, i say, lets talk. Did you say that to ambassador taylor . I dont recall. I dont recall whether we spoke after that or whether he called the secretary. Basically, mr. Castor, wanted to get the notion across that ive gone as far as i can go with this, you need to youre the ambassador, you need to pick up the ball and run with it at this point. Okay. Just getting back to the irregular channel, did anyone else express any concerns to you abou
mr. volker, i just have a few questions before i turn it back to mr. goldman. you testified in response to my colleagues on the minority something along the lines of, a lot of people did not make the connection between burisma and biden. i think a lot of people have real difficulty understanding that. tim morrison testified that i think it took him all of doing a google search to find out, oh, this is the significance of burisma, it involves the bidens. are you saying during all this time up until the call, you never made the connection between burisma and the bidens, you just thought that the president and rudy giuliani were interested in this one particular ukrainian company? again, my role, mr. chairman, was just to get the meeting. i understand that. but my question is, are you saying for months and months, notwithstanding everything rudy giuliani was saying on tvnt and
to the white house meeting. and lisa kenna responds, gord gordon, i ll pass to s. and s is secretary pompeo? correct. thank you, lisa. now, two days later, you have a text exchange with ambassador volker again. and this is at the end of it. but the earlier text which we don t have here, you may recall, includes the press statement, the revised press statement that includes burisma and the 2016 election. do you recall that? yes, if i could see it, that would be helpful. but yes. so, but you ultimately remembered that after your conversation with mr. giuliani, you did pass. along a statemen to the ukrainians that included burisma and the 2016 election, is that right? i think there were statements being passed back and forth between volker, the ukrainians,
nodded? he heard what i said. and didn t respond in any way?re wa i don t recall any substantive response. but you never specifically referenced the bidens or burisma in that meeting, did you? i don t remember ever mentioning the bidens. i may have mentioned burisma. and that meeting was with a group, you werein not alone wit vice president pence? that s right. and you know that at that bilateral meeting with president zelensky, i believein you testified earlier that vice president pence did not mention these investigations at all, right? i don t recall him mentioning the investigations. so your testimony is just simply in a pre-meeting with a group of americans before the bilateral meeting, you referenced the fact that ukraine needed to do these investigations in order to lift the aid?
an email to ulrich brechbuhl and lisa kenna. are you able to see that on your yeah, i can see it on the screen. okay. what is the subject of the email? ukraine. and can you read what you wrote there? mike, and i m referring to secretary pompeo, kurt and i negotiated a statement from zelensky to be delivered for our review in a day or two. the contents will hopefully make the boss happy enough to authorize an invitation. zelensky plans to have a big presser on the openness subject including specifics next week. and in your opening statement you said that the specifics what did the specifics represent? the 2016 and the burisma. and when you say the boss, who do you mean by that? president trump. and the invitation is what?