mulvaney heard about these investigations into burisma and the 2016 election, is that right? i don t know what mr. mulvaney heard or didn t hear. i think there s been a huge amount of exaggeration over my contact with mr. mulvaney. it was actually quiteul limited. well, he certainly didn t indicate he certainly indicated a familiarity with what you were talking about in this july 19th email, is that right? right, because i think mr. mulvaney was in the may 23rd briefingrd with president trump. i don t remember, because there were people sitting behind us when we were sitting in front of president trump s wdesk. you ve said you don t have a recollection of saying referencing mulvaney in the july 10th meeting in ambassador bolton s office, is that right? i don t recall. so when both fiona hill and
or the other american officials that he would assure president trump that he would do these investigations in a phone call. in my email, i obviously had just spoken with him, he he being zelensky, and he said he was prepared to receive the call, he would make those assurances to president trump on that call, and then presumably that would then lead to the white house meeting. t and you had been discussin this phone call for several weeks now, is that right? yes, i think with volker, with perry, with guiliani through volker and perry. and then right after you sent this email assuring the others that he will discuss the investigations and will turn over every stone, the burisma and 2016 election investigations, mr. mulvaney
mueller investigation and in other settings. he had to recall. he told investigators what he knew they already knew in order to save himself. emily, let me read to you some other parts that i haven t gotten to yet that are also new obviously. we got a lot of new information here. he talks about the role that giuliani played, that giuliani proposed language negotiating a public statement to get that biden probe, the burisma 2016, and that language was, quote, being proposed by giuliani. emily, how important is this that they re not only getting different people appearing to admit this but really showing everyone in realtime who was writing what. and guiliani apparently is ghost writing announcements from ukraine. right. so you see guiliani in the middle of this and sondland, who is supposed to be our ambassador to the european union is the kind of in between middleman