Phoebe with ambassador taylor, was he assesssatisfied that thie was now behindti him . I dont really know, because when i responded, get ahold of the secretary, and he said i agree. I never knew i whether he reach out to the secretaryhe or not. That was sort of the end at one point in the text you said lets get on the phone, you said youre an individual that doesnt like to walk through these issues on texts when you can talk about it on the 1 telephone, correct . I say that to everybody when something becomes more substantive than a few lines of text, i say, lets talk. Did you say that to ambassador taylor . I dont recall. I dont recall whether we spoke after that or whether he called the secretary. Basically, mr. Castor, wanted to get the notion across that ive gone as far as i can go with this, you need to youre the ambassador, you need to pick up the ball and run with it at this point. Okay. Just getting back to the irregular channel, did anyone else express any concerns to you abou
Now behind him . I dont really know. He responded when i said get ahold of the secretary, he said i agree and i never knew whether he reached out to the secretary or not. That was sort of the end of that. At one point in your text you said lets get on the phone and you said you are an individual that doesnt like to walk through these issues on texts when you can talk about it on the telephone, correct . I say talk it on the telephone correct . I say that to everybody when something becomes more substantive and that then a few lines of text. The speaker did you talk with ambassador taylor . I dont recall whether we spoke after that or he called the secretary. Basically mr. Castor wanted to get the notion across that i had gone as far as i can go with this. You are the ambassador and you need to pick up the ball and run with it at this point. Okay. Just getting back to the regular channel, did anyone else expressed concerns to you about this socalled irregular
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on august 9th. there is an exchange between ambassador volker and you where you are discussing setting up, we will try to bring it up in a second but i will summarize it for you. you are discussing trying to set up a white house meeting, here it is. you say that morrison is ready to give dates as soon as he confirms ambassador volker size excellent how did you sway him? you said not sure i did. i think otis really wants the deliverable. what did you mean they re? the commitment to do the investigations. how did you know that the president wanted the deliverable? i don t recall. i may have had a conversation or may have heard it from someone else. i don t recall without all these
discussions of rudy giuliani that you never put burisma together with the bidens? i didn t and i wasn t paying attention to what mr. giuliani was singing tv, i was talking to them directly. let me ask you this, volker testified yesterday to a similar epiphany for a lack of better word. this is what he said. in hindsight i now understand that others saw the idea of investigating possible corruption involving the ukrainian company, burisma, as equivalent to investigating former vice president biden. i saw them as very different, the former being appropriated unremarkable, the latter being unacceptable. in retrospect i should have seen that connection differently and had i done so i would ve raised my own objections. does that sum up your views as well? it does. i think you are asked a
the white house meeting. lisa kenna response gordon, i will pass to us. as is secretary pompeo? correct. thank you. two days later you have a text exchange with ambassador volker again. this is at the end of it but the only earlier text which we don t have here you may recall includes the press statement, the revised press statement that includes burisma and the 2016 election. you recall that? yes. if i could see that it would be helpful but yes. you ultimately remember that after your conversation with mr. giuliani you did pass along a statement to the ukrainians that included burisma in the 2016 election come is that right? i think there were statements passed back and forth between volker, the ukrainians, and others to try to negotiate