charged with this, because we haven t in a situation. insurrection is something that is addressed in the 14th amendment, section three. and it was, as you said, there to deal with people coming out of the civil war. where if you had engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the united states, you forfeit the right to hold public office, absent congress voting by two thirds of both houses to relieve you of that problem. so, yes, it would be unusual. but i do think what it really goes to is what congresswoman cheney and congressman raskin talked about, which is the conviction that they have stated, which is that donald trump should never have the ability to hold office again. this is a charge that the remedy fulfills that view. andrew weissmann, thank you. we know you will be joining us again next hour. we do have much more ahead in our primetime recap of the last public meeting of the january 6th investigation. in just a minute, we will speak with a key member of that committee.
released, today, the introduction to what is expected to be a many 100 page report that we re getting on wednesday. the introduction lays out 17 specific findings of their investigation, including a couple of findings that had never previously been explicitly articulated. for instance, lots of republican members of congress and trump allies and conservative media figures, and insisted that the attack on january six wasn t trump supporters at all, despite appearances. it was left-wing people, it was antifa, there s anti-vaxxers committing all the violence, pretending to be trump supporters or something. here is finding number 14 when the investigators today. quote intelligence gathered in advance of january 6th did not support a conclusion that antifa or other light wing groups would engage in a violent counter demonstration,
congress certainly, this committee believes that he s committed criminal acts and so the country will want to know why isn t justice being done and i do think that will cause the department of justice to think long and hard about these charges, about the evidence and about the importance of making sure that presidents don t get a pass. congressman schiff, it s alex wagner, thanks for your time and i just wanted to ask about some of the witnesses that you made note of in the exhaustive reports. specifically deputy chief of staff tony ornato. you say multiple times in the report that the committee found multiple parts of his testimony questionable. you also raise the specter of potential pressure on witnesses. and you raise kayleigh mcenany and other witnesses who had less than forthcoming testimony. is it your opinion that donald trump or his allies may have been pressuring these witnesses to say or not say certain things to the committee and is that
do you say that as a warning because you re worry the that s what s going to happen or do you believe we re on track to have a new kind of accountability where nobody is above the law? i certainly hope that it s the latter, that we re going to see a different kind of accountability where it doesn t matter what your position is or was that you are treated equally before the law. but i am concerned about it. it s taken the justice department a long time to get to the point where it is. they move quickly with respect to the foot soldiers who broke into the building and hurt police officers but moved slowly when it came to people higher up in the organization of this assault on our democracy, so i am concerned with it and one of the reasons for a criminal referral by congress is for accountability and not just of the perpetrators but accountability of our justice department and justice system. the justice department if they decide not to charge donald trump doesn t actually have to go ou
congress, we thought we had a responsibility to do this. one is quick question for you, congressman schiff. is a bit of shellfish one. this is an introduction to the report, this is about an inch and a half. it is 154 pages. if this is the introduction, and we are thinking back here on wednesday night, after you do this on wednesday. about how tall should you expect that stack of paper to be on wednesday when that report comes out? how big is this thing going to be? i some good news and some bad news along those lines. the good news is, the executive summary is disproportionately longer than the report. one of our members was jacking, it s a summary. so i wouldn t be but it is long. there is a lot of material there and really that report is only the beginning because we will be rolling out the transcripts, the text messages, the documents over the days that follow. it will be a lot for you to go through. bring it on, this is why we