like any other american. no one should get a pass. i think the day we start giving passes with people with power or influence is the day we can say this was the beginning of the end of our democracy. joining us of is democratic senator adam schiff chairman of the senate intelligence committee. i think you read that better than i did. no, trust me, you did it better. i can check myself against the tape. but let me ask about that. i believe from my own research and own reporting on the history of the justice department, particularly when they re confronting serious contentions like sedition, like treason, like insurrection that people with a lot of political power haven t often been held to account specifically in the realm of criminal law. you are saying that that would be a travesty for the country and put us down the road toward giving up democrat si.
charged with this, because we haven t in a situation. insurrection is something that is addressed in the 14th amendment, section three. and it was, as you said, there to deal with people coming out of the civil war. where if you had engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the united states, you forfeit the right to hold public office, absent congress voting by two thirds of both houses to relieve you of that problem. so, yes, it would be unusual. but i do think what it really goes to is what congresswoman cheney and congressman raskin talked about, which is the conviction that they have stated, which is that donald trump should never have the ability to hold office again. this is a charge that the remedy fulfills that view. andrew weissmann, thank you. we know you will be joining us again next hour. we do have much more ahead in our primetime recap of the last public meeting of the january 6th investigation. in just a minute, we will speak with a key member of that committee.
congress certainly, this committee believes that he s committed criminal acts and so the country will want to know why isn t justice being done and i do think that will cause the department of justice to think long and hard about these charges, about the evidence and about the importance of making sure that presidents don t get a pass. congressman schiff, it s alex wagner, thanks for your time and i just wanted to ask about some of the witnesses that you made note of in the exhaustive reports. specifically deputy chief of staff tony ornato. you say multiple times in the report that the committee found multiple parts of his testimony questionable. you also raise the specter of potential pressure on witnesses. and you raise kayleigh mcenany and other witnesses who had less than forthcoming testimony. is it your opinion that donald trump or his allies may have been pressuring these witnesses to say or not say certain things to the committee and is that
intelligence committee, nor law enforcement obtained intelligence in advance of january 6th on the full extent of the ongoing planning by president trump, john eastman, who got giuliani, and their associates to overturn the certified election results. agencies did not, and potentially could not, anticipate the provocation president trump would offer the crowd in his speech. president trump would quote, spontaneously instruct the crowd to march to the capitol. that president trump would exacerbate the violent riot by sending his 2:24 p.m. to eat condemning vice president pence for the full scale of violence and lawlessness that would ensue. nordland forsman anticipate that president trump would refuse to direct supporters to leave the capitol once violence began. no intelligence community advanced analysis predicted exactly how president trump would behave. no such analysis recognize the full scale and extent of the
happened. u.s. capitol police officer harry dunn, officer dunn, sir, thank you for what you did on january 6th, thank you for your service, thanks for being with us tonight. we know this isn t the end. we look forward to talking to you, as you said, particularly after that full report comes out on wednesday we ll all look with interest at some of the things you were highlighting. thank you. thank you. all right. we got more ahead tonight in our recap of the january 6th investigation final meeting today and the referral to former president trump for federal prosecution. more of the somewhat surprising findings in the introduction of their report which they released in print right after this break. stay with us. evidence we ve gathered points to further action beyond the power of this committee or the congress to help ensure accountability on the law. accountability that can only be found in the criminal justice system.