And there s also the possibility that they didn t believe that their testimony and terminated them. distinguishing them from their father, apparently. so obviously there was a lot of people who always there for the last few years, boy who just love donald trump testify under oath, anywhere for anything. because he is such a talker. he is likely to incriminate himself. this seems like the advice of counsel who has said, you are a big talker, you could incriminate yourself, because you talk so much. i am surprised and other people might be that donald trump had the discipline to be able to do this but is that him perhaps finally listening to good legal advice? well, it s hard to make that call but what it suggests is that he appreciates the seriousness of the situation that he is in. his home has been searched, the january 6th committee hearings held by the house were very serious and that information and evidence that they uncovered came very close to him.
It was after that and a few statements from trump s attorneys about which documents he had returned, that the doj began to question the accuracy of what trump s team was telling them. now jake brats predecessor in that counter intelligence job was david loughman. he handled the david petraeus and hillary clinton investigations what s revolve around the handling of classified records. loughman had this to say about the search of the former florida presidents home. for the government to pursue a search warrant at mar-a-lago tells me that the quantum and quality of the evidence they were reciting, in a search warrant and affidavit than fbi agents were to, was likely so pulverizing in its force as to eviscerate any notion that the search warrant and this investigation is politically motivated. joining us now is david loughman, former chief of the counter intelligence and export control section in the justice
Had claimed to have only hired the best of the best instructors for his fake school, instructors who were handpicked by donald trump himself. but once under oath, trump again found himself having to answer for his own boastful lies, this time about his great memory. do you recall saying you have one of the all-time great memories? i think that was expression. he was and you stand by it? yeah i have a great memory. have a very good memory. can you tell me whether this person is a student, live events instructor, or neither? johnny harris? too many years. tim course land? 20 years. mike toobin? sounds very familiar, the name sounds familiar, just too many years. darren liebermann? the same name sounds familiar, but it s too many years. donny birkin? i don t know. too many years. i don t know. trump ended up settling that case playing the plaintiffs $25
Away, and it goes up and down with a market and with attitudes and with feelings, even in my own feelings, but i try. attorney, let me just understand that a little, you said your net worth goes up and down based upon your own feelings? trump, yes, even my own feelings, as to where the world, is where the world is going, and that can change rapidly from day to day. attorney, when you publicly state a net worth number, what do you base that number on? trump, i would say it s my general attitude at the time that the question may be asked. and as i say, it varies. after trump gave his, my network has actually just vibes, testimony. the judge surprisingly throughout the defamation case. turns out the law didn t care about trump s feelings. years later, trump ended up back in court, this time as the defendant. he was being sued by former students from his sham business school, trump university, trump
Didn t take the fifth and he says something, in a deposition, it could be used against him and that form. and also, he is heading to trial, both the trump organization and his cfo, and that could also you know, anything that he says and his opposition could land him potentially, land him in that as well. so there is a lot of property going into it today if he did decide not to take the fifth. it just sort of thought of it like it s a basketball, thrown and you don t know quite where it was going to land. this is unusual for donald trump because there are always lawyers who say, hey maybe say less, and you ll be okay. we have no idea where this case is going to go as you said, it could end up with a trial, or settlement. he paid a 25 million dollar settlement in the trump university case. what do you make of what s the likely outcome is and what s influence it has on anything else that we have been discussing? is this a stand-alone case? and whether heating settlement or go to trial,