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Transcripts for MSNBC MSNBC Prime 20240604 04:01:00

New information about the fbi s search of donald trump s florida home. trump world has now reportedly started speculating about who in the former presidents orbit, might have talked to the fbi, and what it could mean for the investigation. we will have more on that later. but let s go back in time a little. to 2005. more than a decade before donald trump s first run for president, before he started fighting with racist birtherism conspiracies, back when he was just a real estate guy, with a funny hairdo, and a reality tv show, that year the intrepid journalist, tim o brien, the guy on the left, the side to side digging into the so-called trump empire. and what he found then probably wouldn t shock anyone today. but back then it was a big deal. tim o brien discovered that donald trump s much lauded business success was actually far less impressive than trump had anyone to believe. he found that donald trump had been significantly overstating

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Transcripts for MSNBC MSNBC Prime 20240604 01:14:00

Not to assert the fifth amendment means that some sort of deal has been shock. we have no indication that there is a form of cooperation going on there in exchange for their truthful testimony. that s one possibility. as suzanne says, that positional amnesia is another. and there s also the possibility that they didn t believe that their testimony and terminated them. distinguishing them from their father, apparently. so obviously there was a lot of people who always there for the last few years, boy who just love donald trump testify under oath, anywhere for anything. because he is such a talker. he is likely to incriminate himself. this seems like the advice of counsel who has said, you are big talker, you could incriminate yourself, because you talk so much. i am surprised and other people might be that donald trump had the discipline to be able to do this but is that him perhaps finally listening to good legal advice? well, it s hard to make that

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Transcripts for MSNBC MSNBC Prime 20240604 04:25:00

And other officials visited mar-a-lago, they subpoenaed the trump organization for a copy of mar-a-lago s surveillance tapes. the company complied turning the tapes over the government. it was after that and a few statements from trump s attorneys about which documents he actually had returned, that the doj began to question the accuracy of what trump s team was telling them. now jay bratt s predecessor in that counter intelligence job was david loughman. he handled the david petraeus and hillary clinton investigations what s revolve around the handling of classified records. laufman had this to say about the search of the former florida presidents home. for the government to pursue a search warrant at mar-a-lago tells me that the quantum and quality of the evidence they were reciting, in a search warrant and affidavit than fbi agents were to, was likely so pulverizing in its force as to eviscerate any notion that the search warrant and this investigation is politically

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Transcripts for MSNBC MSNBC Prime 20240604 04:04:00

Have one of the all-time great memories? i think that was the expression. and you stand by it? yeah i have a great memory. have a very good memory. can you tell me whether this person is a student, live events instructor, or neither? johnny harris? too many years. tim goslin? 2 many years. mike toobin? sounds very familiar, the name sounds familiar, just too many years. darren liebermann? the same name sounds familiar, but it s too many years. jonny birkin? i don t know. too many years. i don t know. trump ended up settling that case playing the plaintiffs $25 million. late last year don trump was once again deposed under oath the first time even depose since leaving the white house. that depostion came in a case brought by protesters who said that they were assaulted by trump security at the 2015 campaign rally. in that deposition, trump tried to justify telling his supporters to quote, knock the

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Transcripts for MSNBC MSNBC Prime 20240604 04:08:00

To use any of trump s testimony today in helping build its case against him as well. and then there are the various january six investigations continuing to probe trump s attempt to overturn a legitimate election. a legitimate election. and now a justice department investigation into trump s removal of classified records which the fed obtained a search warrant on monday. all of this seems to have obscured donald trump into doing something that he s never had to do before in his life. sit down and shut up. my next guest is the first you person want to speak to on a night like tonight. no one who has done more in-depth reporting on the trump family and its business practices. joining us as my old friend susanne craig investigative reporter, for the new york times, she was one of the lead reporters on the times pulitzer prize investigation, into donald trump s finances. susanne, good to see this evening, thank you for being with us.

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