trump empire. and what he found than probably wouldn t shock anyone today. but back then it was a big deal. tim o brien discovered that donald trump s much lauded business excellence was actually far less impressive than trump had anyone to believe. he found that donald trump had been significantly overstating his net worth by billions of dollars. that he wasn t remotely close to being a billionaire. and so in 2005, tim o brien wrote a book exposing donald trump s prolific lies, and exaggerations about his wealth. donald trump reported by suing time o brien for defamation a year later, and that is how we got to see what it s like when donald trump testifies under oath. quoting from the transcript, attorney, mr. trump, have you always been completely truthful in your public statements about your net worth of properties? trump, i try. attorney, have you ever not been truthful? trump, my net worth blocked away, and it goes up and down with a market and with attitudes and w
new information about the fbi s search of donald trump s florida home. trump world has now reportedly started speculating about who in the former presidents orbit, might have talked to the fbi, and what it could mean for the investigation. we will have more on that later. but let s go back in time a little. to 2005. more than a decade before donald trump s first run for president, before he started fighting with racist birtherism conspiracies, back when he was just a real estate guy, with a funny hairdo, and a reality tv show, that year the intrepid journalist, tim o brien, the guy on the left, the side to side digging into the so-called trump empire. and what he found then probably wouldn t shock anyone today. but back then it was a big deal. tim o brien discovered that donald trump s much lauded business success was actually far less impressive than trump had anyone to believe. he found that donald trump had been significantly overstating his net worth by billions of dollar
it was after that and a few statements from trump s attorneys about which documents he had returned, that the doj began to question the accuracy of what trump s team was telling them. now jake brats predecessor in that counter intelligence job was david loughman. he handled the david petraeus and hillary clinton investigations what s revolve around the handling of classified records. loughman had this to say about the search of the former florida presidents home. for the government to pursue a search warrant at mar-a-lago tells me that the quantum and quality of the evidence they were reciting, in a search warrant and affidavit than fbi agents were to, was likely so pulverizing in its force as to eviscerate any notion that the search warrant and this investigation is politically motivated. joining us now is david loughman, former chief of the counter intelligence and export control section in the justice
things that we know the true reporting, that boxes were sent back many months ago from mar-a-lago to the national archives. the national archives reviewed and were horrified to review that it contained classified information. they made a referral to the department of justice about that very issue. that is likely which triggered alarm bells in the gaza security vision at the justice department involved at the first place. the transformed something from the failure to return presidential records into an investigation into the exposure of classified information. there s nothing that concerns the fbi and the department of justice more than the notion that there is classified information out there in the wild in a place that s not authorized to be where multiple people may have access to it, including possible foreign nationals. of course we know as you put out in your program last night that this president is prone to
obtain certain kinds of financial advantage, and perhaps they were able to truthfully say they weren t involved, they didn t know, they weren t overseeing the financial statements that were being made. so it s possible that their responses were because as you say ali, they didn t feel they were at risk. joyce, good to see you. i was in your state of alabama this weekend and i didn t get to see if it ll have to make another trip. enjoyed the show, thanks ali. thank you joyce vance is a former united states attorney for the northern district of alabama. we have more to get to including that fbi search inside mar-a-lago, and an interview with some very special friends of ours. stay with us. plus an extra boost of support for your immunity, brain, and hair, skin & nails. new one a day multi+. [acoustic soul music throughout] [acoustic soul music throughout] [acoustic soul music throughout]