claim he tried to rig polls for the president, she said that s, again, categorically false. they are really relying on rudy giuliani to do the talking for the president and the president himself and he addressed reporters. he said michael cohen just needs to tell the trust but he believes michael cohen is afraid of the truth. francesca chambers, congressman lynch at the people s house, cornell with the numbers. thanks to each of you for your expertise for the big story. up next, witnesses from bob mueller s probe right here at 30 rock together for the first time. carter page, michael capitalo, sam nunberg. i ll speak to all of them together live. nancy pelosi and donald trump squaring off in washington. the state of the union hangs in balance. i m ari melber, you re watching a special edition of the beat on msnbc. g a special edition of the beat on
michael cohen will do and say whatever it takes to cut his sentence down. i think michael cohen is an inveterate liar. it s been proven to. he s been found guilty of lying fl i think he ll continue to lie and say whatever he needs to to cut his sentence down as far as possible. do you think cohen should testify, sam? i think what s interesting, ari, the way a lot of this is being covered, this is a bad day for democrats or chairman of the oversight committee. republicans are looking forward to him testifying. while you may have questions and cohen may say certain things that are problematic for the president, they are going to be people on the other side just attacking him and attacking his credibility and going over every single thing he did to portray what he did as betraying the president. when he attacks the family that s so-called mob tactics. quite frankly, i haven t given a lot of thought to
come before congress. testify truthfully. what do you say to his father-in-law who we just showed the lawyer for the president of the united states rudy giuliani alleging some kind of potential legal exposure for him? that amounts to witness intimidation in my opinion. he s trying to, again, shift the focus from mr. cohen s testimony to the father-in-law on an extraneous case. that has nothing to do with what happened between michael cohen and donald trump regarding the moscow tower. so that s what we want to find we know that michael cohen s testimony is contrary to what president trump said over and over publicly. and so we want to get that on the record. stay with me, congressman. francesca chambers reporting for us from the white house. is the view there that as bad as this looks, it still would be
michael cohen, i m more concerned about myself. i understand that. what about you, carter? key word in that statement is threat. when i met with the house intel committee, i told them about many death threats that stemmed directly from march 20, 2017 meeting between the house intel. particularly congressman schiff and his discussions with comey where they were talking about the dodgy dossier. i felt that firsthand. to me threat is when you were in the fbi interview, were you ever asked about michael cohen? i can t remember specifics but i told them about the threats. i think everybody is. essentially the grand jury. i don t recall anything about michael cohen. you re the one not a former trump aide, so it would be less likely. they may have asked me how i knew michael cohen, what relationship i had with him, but it always had been very casual and i had known michael cohen for years as part of the trump
activity with michael cohen, and michael cohen is withholding it. this is bigger than how rudy giuliani interprets the witnesses statements. the new chairs in congress have power. the congressman steven limpk joins me with democratic strategies and daily mail francesca chambers at the white house. congressman, what is the significance of this news and can you confirm whether or not a subpoena is on the way? well, as chairman schiff and chairman cummings indicated not testifying is not an option. i think the general consensus of members of the committee right now is that if mr. cohen is not