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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20190123:23:21:00

organization but never really any detail or deep depth with michael cohen. so before we move on, yes or no, do you think in your opinion he should step up and speak to congress before he goes to jail? i really don t have any opinion on it. i think he should. i really couldn t care less. i d like him to go to jail as soon as possible and stay there a long time. the more openness, the better. i want to start now as we get into the probe with you all on yes or no questions. real quick so we understand who we re talking to. did you speak to the fbi or mueller s prosecutors? yes. yes. yes. as leaked to the washington post and new york times, yes, i can confirm their statements. have you been inside mueller s grand jury? they said that and i will not deny that, yes. no. yes. yes. do you think this probe is a witch hunt? yes. yes and no. classic number, yes and no. yes, i do. yes, you do. the comey steps and fbi steps

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20190123:23:02:00

defenders also simple. they note two of these men are in a big public fight. one of them is a confessed criminal. the other never been charged with anything. cohen was set to deliver the blockbuster testimony. i m sure you heard about it. it was going to be next month. his adviser said he might be the next john dean, made news on this show recently when the president s attacks on cohen were turning up the heat. there is genuine fear, and it has caused michael cohen to consider whether he should go forward or not and he s not made a final decision. consider. he was announcing he was going to do and you and i spoke to that effect. are you saying the testimony may be off? i would just say the exact words that he s considering whether to go forward in light of the concerns about his family. my guess is that he won t let a bully silence him. i can tell you he s still considering whether to do it or

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20190123:23:03:00

not. to do it or not. that appearance made headlines of its own. some are asking is cohen being silenced. democratic leaders are blasting trump, literally comparing him to a mafia boss alleging textbook tactics. no one knows what cohen would have revealed. sources say it would be what it was like to work for a madman, things that would give you chills. do after his father-in-law looked like witness intimidation in plain sight. it s okay to go after the father-in-law? of course it is if the father-in-law is a criminal. i m questioning whether it s appropriate for the president to single out a proprietary citizen. he s not a private citizen. he s a private citizen lying about him trying to get him impeached. i m defending him. i m talking about the father-in-law. the father-in-law we happen to know. just go read the southern district report. the man was involved in criminal

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20190123:23:08:00

better than having mr. cohen have that john dean testimony moment? well, the president says that he has nothing to worry about, right, if he just goes up there and tells the truth. but what exactly, as you mentioned, ari, is the truth at this point. rudy giuliani has made numerous statements that are conflicting. first he said the president may have discussed that moscow trump tower through the election, then we heard him say it was up to the election day, then walked that back repeatedly. at this point what exactly is the truth we re looking for michael cohen to tell? cornell, what do you think of all this? i think if you re sitting in middle america, you clutch the pearls. we re not a banana republic. if you think about moderate middle swath of voters in this country, some of them who went along early on with trump, thought he was, you know, anti-establishment.

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20190123:23:00:00

that s all we ve got tonight. we ll be back with more mtp daily. i m giving it to you because i ve got to get get me some popcorn. do it. go get your popcorn. we re excited, chuck. tonight looks to be a good evening. i mentioned on last night s show we re doing something on the mueller probe tonight that we ve never done before. we don t think anyone has done it. we re going to interview four witnesses from the russia probe live together. you can see them seated ready to come on. three donald trump aides. one target. i m going to ask them about their interviews with the mueller team, contacts with the russians. big michael cohen news breaking

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