come before congress. testify truthfully. >> what do you say to his father-in-law who we just showed the lawyer for the president of the united states rudy giuliani alleging some kind of potential legal exposure for him? >> that amounts to witness intimidation in my opinion. he's trying to, again, shift the focus from mr. cohen's testimony to the father-in-law on an extraneous case. that has nothing to do with what happened between michael cohen and donald trump regarding the moscow tower. so that's what we want to find -- we know that michael cohen's testimony is contrary to what president trump said over and over publicly. and so we want to get that on the record. >> stay with me, congressman. francesca chambers reporting for us from the white house. is the view there that as bad as this looks, it still would be