security enhancements in the past. i just want to see them do it again as part of a comprehensive daca solution. yeah, they say they will vote for border security, the democrats, as part of an arrangement to allow these d.r.e.a.m.ers to stay in the united states. what they don t want to vote for is 15 or $18 billion to build a wall all across the u.s.-mexico border. you don t want to do that, either, do you? the thing about that wall, i ve had a lot of business down in the valley so i spent some time there. there s 350 miles of pedestrian-preventive wall, mostly around the cities. then there s another 350 miles of vehicular preventive wall that could be hardened up and expanded to make people hard to cross in and around the you are urban areas. but there s also the part that goes through big ben national park and the
idea. you know? and apparently the following year, 1933, the exact same thing was proposed between big bend, and its sister park in mexico. and it s been proposed again a couple years later and proposed again and i guess it s still just a work in progress. but it is a work in progress. meaning, we obviously still want it to be a park on the u.s. side and the mexicans still want it to be a park on their side. so if it didn t officially become a park, how did what we have become what it is? it s an agreement. it s a handshake. it s not formal. so i guess our geologists aren t cooperating with their geologists financially. they have, a little town there. it s an amazingly charming mexican village that is so far away from the the stuff that you hear on tv about, you know, sort of danger around the border and everything else. it s impossibly adorable, and a
mexico s not for it we ve got to know how to and the people said build the wall. they said build the wall. talking about putting it in the middle of a river one thing. putting up at the border that s [ talking on top of one another ] one at a time. i ve lived by the border almost 40 years. these countries are intertwined more than people ever imagined. politicians get a lot of mileage out of talking hard about the board are when they absolutely don t have a clue. has there been any renewed conversations regarding the potential building of a wall through the park? any comments about the wall, go ahead and refer to that washington office again. here at big bend, we currently have a national park on the u.s. side and protected areas on the mexican side as well.
sides, right and left, and it gets noisy. the arguments get noisy and a lot of them i don t think, i don t know for sure, but a lot of them haven t really seen the, the border area themselves. i just learned today that big bend national park actually encompasses 13% of the u.s./mexico border. that s a really not a small chunk. not a small chunk of change. and so when they re debating here about the pluses and minuses of a wall, i wanted to see for myself what the locals felt. what was actually happening there on the ground, and what i learned was that there isn t a straight line. there isn t an easy way to divide the two nations. there s a lot of cross-culture collaboration. the thing i ve noticed with the border and with folks that live on the border is, boy, you know, they re all nuance on this issue. as you would expect. i grew up in miami. so we had similar debates in the 70s and 80s about immigration. weird to hear other people
lot of americans go to big bend national park in texas to visit one of the best features of big bend national park is this village. the idea you cross over, hey, it s like feels to me like a kwa quaint version of tijuana? more like a village. go to a village. tijuana s its own thing. this feels like the same idea. that s right. and they are actually i think it was four or five hours by road close to the closest other mexican town, population center in mexico. they re pretty isolated. their nearest population center is big bend. you said you were looking for a wall story. why? like, what were you trying to debunk going in there looking to debunk mythology? what was the goal? we hear a lot of pundits with very strong opinions on both